HDX ripped Wave files re-tagging

Posted by: Checkthisout68 on 28 June 2016

Hi, as the subject says, after moving my HDX ripped CDs (about 800) the ID tag information is missing when opening these files with Audirvana, for each CD I have to click on "convert to album", wait a couple of seconds and then I would also have to manually add the album art afterwards. Nice. 

I found out on this forum that the HDX does not only rip CDs but also rips the tagging information apart. 

Is there a tool that can do a mass conversion, make an album out of tracks by folder - as there is only one album in every folder - and find and and add the "folder.jpg" or add album art from the internet? It could save me some time I suppose.

Many thanks and best regards

Chris

 

Posted on: 28 June 2016 by David Hendon

I shall have to let someone else answer the specific question about software that would do this editing for you, but if you still have access to the HDX, there is another way I think.

The problem is that there is no standardised way of storing metadata in WAV files and Naim invented their own way, which Audirvanar doesn't understand. But if you still have the HDX, then you could get it to transcode everything to FLAC.  It can do that although it will take a day or so for that many albums. Metadata is held in a standard way in FLAC, so having done the mass transcode, you could move all the files to your NAS and then have the upnp server transcode back to WAV when it is playing.  This is said to be the best compromise between the file space and sound quality.

i hope this helps.

best

David

Posted on: 28 June 2016 by Checkthisout68

I see, thanks. Yes, I still have the HDX.

 

Posted on: 28 June 2016 by hungryhalibut

It's not transcoding you want. You actually want to convert the WAV files to FLAC. You do this in the desktop client - just right click on the album and you'll get an option to convert.  If you do this at the top of the file tree it will do a mass conversion for you. 

Posted on: 28 June 2016 by Adam Zielinski

As HH wrote - this is the only way to ensure correct taging is assigned to all your ripped CDs. 800 CDs may take overnight to convert.

NAIM servers (HDX and UnitiServe) use proprietary tagging protocol to store metadata alongside the WAV files. Accessing them outside the NAIM ecosystem is not really something external server softwares do.

Posted on: 28 June 2016 by ChrisSU

As mentioned above, convert to FLAC on the HDX before copying the files to any other device, and the metadata should then be usable. This also has the benefit of reducing file size, so you save lots of storage space on the HDX. 

You then have the option to set the HDX to convert back to WAV 'on the fly' during playback, which some people feel sounds slightly better than playing the FLACs. I would suggest trying all this with just a handful of albums first to make sure it all works for you.

Posted on: 29 June 2016 by Checkthisout68

Alright, thanks, does it take many days or really just overnight to convert 800+ albums?

Posted on: 29 June 2016 by Adam Zielinski
Checkthisout68 posted:

Alright, thanks, does it take many days or really just overnight to convert 800+ albums?

Once you start the process the softwarewill give you a good estimate. My guess is around 12-14 hours. 

Posted on: 29 June 2016 by ChrisSU

When I did this on my Unitiserve, I had only ripped about 200 albums to it, but I was surprised how quick it was to convert them. As far as I can remember, it only took a couple of hours. 

Posted on: 29 June 2016 by Harry

Some people hear differences in favour of WAV over FLAC. Some don't. If you don't, the FLAC option is a godsend.

I do. So when I was in an analogous situation to you I retagged the lot. I used dBpoweramp, which won't do everything automatically but has a lot of batching features. It took me a long time (starting with most frequently played albums first) but it was worth it. I got to tag my stuff exactly how I wanted it tagged. 

I now rip CDs with dBpoweramp and it allows me to get all the tags right (and all the junk removed) before I rip. Yes I am a control freak. But if third party databases contained better quality information and were better able at identifying and tagging different versions of the same album, multi album sets and classical music, maybe I wouldn't need to be (so much).