UnitiQute2 connected to a Nait2 - how?

Posted by: Yetizone on 04 July 2016

hi folks. If fully compatible, I’m hoping to experiment a little by connecting my UnitiQute2 to my Nait 2 and use it as a streamer only - just to see if old and new can gel! I would be really grateful if someone who has actually done this, could please let me know the details as to how to set them both up properly. Questions spring to mind... 

1. What is the best cable to use? (I do have a spare Chord Cobra RCA-DIN 5 Pin lead).

2. What are the optimum settings on the Qute via the Naim App / Naim remote?

3. Which input is best to use on the Nait2?

4. What is the best power up & down sequence?

 

I’m assuming I can use my RCA-5 Pin DIN cable, connecting from the UnitiQute2 Preamp Out RCA sockets into the Aux on the Nait?

Any help gratefully received

Posted on: 05 July 2016 by Gavin B

Sounds like you're on the right track - just remember to set the Qute's speaker setting to off (somewhere in the set-up). I vaguely remember setting my Qute volume to 60 when I ran it like this.  Of course you might prefer to fix the Nait volume and use the app or remote to change the volume. Powering up I'd say Qute first then Nait and reverse it for powering down.

Posted on: 05 July 2016 by Yetizone

Thanks Gavin OK, so how do I fix the Nait volume? Ideally I would like to control the volume remotely through the Naim app / Qute if I can.

Posted on: 05 July 2016 by Richard Dane

There's no way to avoid going through the the pre-amp section of the NAIT.  You should try with the volume on the NAIT set at around 12 o'clock.  It's not ideal going through two pre- stages and two volume controls but it should work OK.

Posted on: 05 July 2016 by Yetizone

Thanks Richard  I will have a play and see how much of a bottle neck the twin preamp / volume paths are - just wanted to try it before I explore the possibility of adding a power amp to the Qute and using it as a Pre / Streamer.

 So, via the Naim App, I set the speaker setting to off, volume to 60, then the Nait volume to the 12 o'clock position. Anything else or is that it?

Nait now switched on (not yet connected to the Qute) and will leave it to warm up for a day or so before listening (powered down for a few weeks). I also noticed that the Nait2 logo is not glowing as brightly as it did before it was turned off?

Posted on: 05 July 2016 by Dave***t

IIRC when using the Qute as a source, you want the Qute's volume set to 84 rather than 60. That means the Qute will neither boost nor attenuate.

Posted on: 05 July 2016 by Gavin B

The speaker setting is in the Qute's set up menus, not the app.

If you're going to use the Nait's volume control, set the Qute to 84 as Dave suggests (more suitable than my suggestion), but if you're going to use the Qute to control volume, set the Nait to 12 o'clock.  You have to do one or the other!

Posted on: 05 July 2016 by Yetizone

I would prefer to use the remote of the Qute for volume as both the Nait & Qute are out of arms reach, away from the seating position / work desk, so a remote is essential really.

So, to confirm, just in case I blow my old MA speakers! Set the Qute volume to 60 and Nait volume to 12, this gives volume control to Qute?

Posted on: 05 July 2016 by Brubacca

To use the Qute remote:

Set the qute volume to something like 30. The. Set the Nait 2 to 12 O' Clock. Now play something on the Qute and ramp up the volume with the Qute remote.   My normal level on my Qute 1 is like 35-45. 

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If you want to use the Nait Volume set the Qute volume at 84  

Did you try just using the Qute and not the Nait?  The Qute amp is pretty good  

 

Posted on: 05 July 2016 by Gavin B

If you're using the Qute remote to control the volume, the value will move as you change it.  The Nait will remain fixed at 12 o'clock. You should also be able to use the Naim app on an iphone / ipad / android smartphone to control the volume.

The volume for my Qute (standalone) in the kitchen is generally 25-30 but occasionally gets cranked up higher.

Posted on: 05 July 2016 by Yetizone

Gavin & Brubacca, That’s just great - many thanks I’ll have a play with this set up tomorrow and see how it all works out. Worth experimenting with the Nait just to see how it sounds before I embark on the next step and a power amp for the Qute.

Posted on: 05 July 2016 by Lewis

I've done this in he past and I currently have my Nac 32 and UQ2 running in a system and the sound is amazing. Also you have he convenience of using the volume on the UQ so you effectively have a remote. So good. I use a chord chrysalis cable from UQ to Nac 32. On your case you're basically using the UQ as a source so I'd connect it to the tape 2 output or similar, set the Nait volume to about 12 as said above then just use the UQ volume to adjust the sound levels. I have mine set to max at 70 and bags plenty loud enough for me. Good luck. Let me know if you have any more questions!

Posted on: 05 July 2016 by Lewis

Ps. Goddamn predictive text on my phone has screwed up my message but you get what I'm saying!

Posted on: 06 July 2016 by Yetizone

Thanks Lewis - that great All being well i'm going to tinker later!

Posted on: 06 July 2016 by Yetizone

UnitiQute2 & Nait2 now working harmoniously together - thanks for all of the set up help folks

Posted on: 06 July 2016 by gary yeowell

How do you like it?

Posted on: 06 July 2016 by Yetizone
gary yeowell posted:

How do you like it?

Its an interesting pairing. But, the jury is still out I think - the Nait has only been powered up for 24 hours after a couple of months being switched off, so hardly warm through yet.

With the Nait driving the speakers, first impressions are of a leaner, dryer presentation with a slightly heightened forward treble, but still very engaging and exiting. The Nait2 also seems to run out of steam at higher volumes when compared to the Qute2. 

Plus, I’d say that the UnitiQute2 actually tames the occasionally aggressive combination of flat earth period Nait2 & Monitor Audio R252 combination, perhaps creating a system that is less fatiguing over time. The fault here may lie at the door of the R252's presentation, more so than the Nait. On that aspect alone, and while at this early stage, I'd say I prefer the more rounded presentation of the UnitiQute2. But, I will reserve assessment until Nait2 has had time to warm up properly over a few days - then will be able to hear how it all gels together. 

Posted on: 14 July 2016 by Lewis

Get some SBL's in there you will enjoy the results

Posted on: 14 July 2016 by Yetizone

You know, I had some SBL's ages ago powered by a 52 / 135's, and thought them superb. Really very good indeed on the end of those amps, the word synergy springs to mind. But then a set of Linn Isobarik's came up locally at a decent price and that was it I had to experiment! At the time I lived in London and only had space for one set of floor standers. Out went the SBL's and in came the 'BRIK'S. In some ways I wish I'd kept both sets of speakers as they were mint and boxed - sobs uncontrollably!

I'd assume that a pair of SBL's and a 'Qute2 would be a bit of a mullet? Surely a 250 would be the minimum 'beef muscle' required  to make SBL's sing?

Interesting thought though. Add a 250 to my Qute, then SBL's then a 272 in a couple of years! Oh temptation!!!