New NAS not detected. Help, please.

Have you turned on the UPnP server and pointed it to your music directory? I don't think it is on by default, and your ND5 won't see it as a file directory the way your computer will, it only sees "through" the Music Server. Worth double checking...

Regards alan

Bela Lugosi posted:

Hi all, 

My old NAS died so I've bought new one, a Sinology DS116 + WD Red hard disk. I have uploaded all music files from security copy. I can access the NAS from my computer with no problem, but the ND5 XS does not show it on the UPnP menu, it says No server .   Anybody knows what should I do? 

Thanks in advance. 

 

Vte

Yes, you should run a UPnP server on your new nas!  You can run the Synology Media Server to start, but I recommend MinimServer as a more robust alternative.

+1 to the previous posts - Open the Synology web page Package Center find & open Media Server

There are some more fine tuning things to do but you should find these OK & they are self explaining,  but come back if you need help.   I agree with Bart that Minimserver is an alternative server,  but I've tried it & personally prefer the Synology,  it works extremely well for me because I only have WAV & DSD & have no need to transcode from FLAC.  But as I said come back if you need more help

Mike-B posted:

+1 to the previous posts - Open the Synology web page Package Center find & open Media Server

There are some more fine tuning things to do but you should find these OK & they are self explaining,  but come back if you need help.   I agree with Bart that Minimserver is an alternative server,  but I've tried it & personally prefer the Synology,  it works extremely well for me because I only have WAV & DSD & have no need to transcode from FLAC.  But as I said come back if you need more help

Hi, 

Thank you all. 

Installed Synology Media Server and now is working.  

What are those fine tuning things you mention?  All my files are FLAC. 

Thanks. 

I think Mike is referring to ability to customise how the media server displays albums in the Naim app. 

As your files are in FLAC, I'd suggest that you load Minimserver, which will transcode happily to WAV, which sounds better. Media server will do it too, but it can't cope with transcoding gapless albums properly, which is a significant issue if you have a lot of classical stuff. 

Hi again,  the fine tunings relate to the way you browse,  there are settings in Media Server web page & you can change General Settings, Browsing Settings & DMA Compatibility.   Its up to you to see what you like,  but I suggest you start with  .......  

General Settings  - DMA Language = your choice     DMA Menu Style = Simple      SSDP (your choice, leave it unchanged or experiment,  but 600 works faultless for me)

Browsing Settings - Music Display = Title Only      (Only one box is checked [tick marked])   Display cover image = Checked/Ticked         Filenames - copy/paste the following into the window =   cover.jpg;Cover.jpg;COVER.jpg;folder.jpg;Folder.jpg;FOLDER.jpg

DMA Compatibility  .............  this is all about transcoding.   You have FLAC & this can be transcoded to WAV & in some peoples opinion it gives a better sound quality.    However while the Synology Media Server does transcode OK,  it has problems with gapless replay.    (this is why a lot of people use Minimserver)    I suggest you have a play with transcoding on & off & make your own mind up - I only have WAV files so transcoding is not something I need to use.

Good Luck  

Mike-B posted:

Hi again,  the fine tunings relate to the way you browse,  there are settings in Media Server web page & you can change General Settings, Browsing Settings & DMA Compatibility.   Its up to you to see what you like,  but I suggest you start with  .......  

General Settings  - DMA Language = your choice     DMA Menu Style = Simple      SSDP (your choice, leave it unchanged or experiment,  but 600 works faultless for me)

Browsing Settings - Music Display = Title Only      (Only one box is checked [tick marked])   Display cover image = Checked/Ticked         Filenames - copy/paste the following into the window =   cover.jpg;Cover.jpg;COVER.jpg;folder.jpg;Folder.jpg;FOLDER.jpg

DMA Compatibility  .............  this is all about transcoding.   You have FLAC & this can be transcoded to WAV & in some peoples opinion it gives a better sound quality.    However while the Synology Media Server does transcode OK,  it has problems with gapless replay.    (this is why a lot of people use Minimserver)    I suggest you have a play with transcoding on & off & make your own mind up - I only have WAV files so transcoding is not something I need to use.

Good Luck  

Hi Mike, 

Settings done as suggested, thanks.

Excuse my ignorance, but if I ripped all my cds from WAV to FLAC, why would I want to transcode them again into WAV? 

Thanks. 

Bela Lugosi posted:

Excuse my ignorance, but if I ripped all my cds from WAV to FLAC, why would I want to transcode them again into WAV? 

Naim units are reputedly optimised for WAV,  & according to most people around the forum WAV sounds better.   By having the NAS transcode FLAC to WAV & then send the Naim unit a WAV data stream it gains the SQ.   Plus it reduces NAS storage space (FLAC is stored (but not played) as a compressed file)  & FLAC is supposed to be easier to manage with metadata (although I've never found WAV to be a problem)    

Also your CD's are not WAV   CD file format is .cda (CDA)

and further to Mike's comments - not all WAV meta data can be supported by FLAC unless a special option is enabled in the  FLAC encoder to incorporate extended WAV meta data. https://xiph.org/flac/document...eep_foreign_metadata

Can I ask a supplementary question about transcoding using the Synology Media Server?

Transcoding is not something I have bothered with up to now, but thought I would give it a go.  When I select the option to transcode,, 16 bit FLAC files appear to be successfully transcoded to WAV as expected. However, 24 bit FLAC files appear to be down-sampled during the transcoding to 16 bit WAV files by the media server.

Is this to be expected? It's surely not desirable.  

I can't see any way to avoid this in the DMA Compatibility settings page in the Media Server.

Hi HMACK,  your observations are spot on.  The Synology transcoder is rubbish. Its something that Synology have never got around to either acknowledge or to fix.
Minimserver transcode's perfectly. 
(I've gone all WAV (& DSD) - best move IMO)

I reported the gapless problem to Synology Support & the reply was ..............
" Unfortunately FLAC files when transcoded cannot be played gaplessly over DLNA; this is how transcoding works via Media Server in this instance. I have forwarded your request for this added feature to our development team for consideration as a future enhancement. Unfortunately it isn't possible to provide a Timescale as to when this may be included"       I replied thanking them etc & pointed out that ALL other DNLA/UPnP media servers do transcode & play gapless.

Thanks MIKE-B,

Looks like I am going to have to give Minimserver a go when I get some spare time.

Finally got around to installing MinimServer on my Synology NAS, so can now transcode both standard and hi-res FLAC files on the fly to WAV. Haven't had a chance yet to do any real comparisons of sound quality between FLAC and WAV on my Linn and Naim streamers, but I will get around to this over the next couple of weeks. Whatever my findings, I suspect I will stick with MinimServer, as it does appear to be significantly slicker in respect of the speed with which album art is generated in both Naim and Linn Kazoo apps.

However, I really do want to warn anyone who is thinking about trying out MinimServer (particularly on a Synology server) that installation is not quite as straightforward as it might be. I suspect that anyone who is not really IT literate will potentially struggle quite a bit, and it is really important to follow the user guides and online tips.

Installing and running the Synology Media Server on a Synology NAS is very straightforward (it comes already packaged for installation on the NAS), so unless you really want to transcode from FLAC to WAV on the fly, it's probably best to stick with this to begin with.

On the other hand, installing and running MinimServer (and its associated components) can be a little tricky, and a little confusing, even for those who are pretty IT literate. The process involves:

1. Identifying the particular processor on your Synology NAS (the processor type will vary by specific NAS model)

2. Downloading and installing onto the NAS the correct version of Java for your specific NAS processor

3. Downloading and installing the latest version of MinimServer for your specific NAS processor type  

4. Downloading and installing (on your PC or Mac) the latest version of MinimWatch for the operating system on your PC or Mac (to allow you to configure MinimServer on your NAS) .

5. Installing the appropriate version of MinimStreamer on your NAS in order to be able to configure MinimServer (using MinimWatch on your PC) to transcode from FLAC to WAV.

Quite a bit more complicated than I had expected, and not a little confusing at times (primarily because MinimWatch in particular is not well documented).

Still, once it is up an running, it appears to work pretty seamlessly for both my Linn and Naim streamers, and certainly transcodes FLAC files (of all resolutions) to WAV completely seamlessly. 

I think I probably will continue to use MinimServer rather than the Synology Media Server.      

The instalation process described above is not unique to Synology I'm afraid - QNAP is similar. But once up and running, Minimserver works well. I still prefer to use my Uniti Serve though