What's wrong with my music?

Ricto posted:

Ok ...

This question insist's you listen to one of the song's posted and analyses the out come.

The reason I post this I listened to Justin Bieber "love your self" (that's the song)...

Good luck with that!

Think this was my point. People do not listen beyond their own choice and expand their listening experience. I like AC/DC dire straits eat... however the sound quality on the Beiber song is very good my question is will other people listen to some thing they are not really into and judge on sound quality reproduction rather than their own musical preferences as I am doing here.

Ricto

Every one has listened to a song like it or not and think that sounds really good

Buy music you like to listen too not what sounds good on your system.

I have albums by stiff little fingers that are grainy and muffled and sound shite on my system but still enjoy the music.

Rewind 20 years and they sounded great on a cheap set up.

like I said above buy music for you not your system.

Ricto posted:

... however the sound quality on the Beiber song is very good my question is will other people listen to some thing they are not really into and judge on sound quality reproduction rather than their own musical preferences ...

How can you expect any meaningful reponse basing replies on music no-one else might have listened to?

Different 'pressings' of the same song can sound different, whether it be vinyl, CD or native file type so without this info comparisons and conclusions are open to variability. I've never heard a 'good' quality (whatever that means) version Iggy Pop's "The Idiot", that does not stop me playing my copy (losslessly ripped to flac) as I love it.

I would imagine many on this forum have partners / children / friends / radios etc and are exposed to 'music' they would not normally listen to. I have personally been won over by very little in the last few years although I have grown very fond of my wife's Rumer CDs (they and her voice sound lovely and relaxing). I have all the AC/DC anyone need own (Back In Black). I chucked all the other LPs and filled the space (and space correlates to listening time) with other musics in other styles.

As I said, good luck, but maybe you could ask again your question without limiting respondees to a single track they are very unlikely to own.

I'm not entirely sure, but I think you're asking that if, god forbid, you had to judge your system using this track alone, would it be fantastic?  In terms of reproduction, then yes, its sounds amazing on my system, but then everything sounds amazing, so no surprise there.  And yes, I did actually listen to it, thanks to the modern world of lossless internet streaming it's not really a big deal.  That said, the track completely failed to engage me in any way, it sounds good, but I don't like it.  I am sure if I heard on it on a perfectly configured Statement system, in a acoustically matched room, I still wouldn't like it.  That's the problem, however great a system is, I will never find engagement and 'musical fidelity', with music that I don't like.  That's not to say that having a more high-end system has not broadened my musical horizons.  I've never had much time for classical music in the past, though I have always appreciated it.  In a system that can really communicate what is going on though, I find that classical pieces feature in my listening much more often and I really enjoy them, but my previous systems would not have reproduced them well enough to really get the message across. 

There i's nothing you can do to make me li'sten to that 'song.

winkyincanada posted:

There i's nothing you can do to make me li'sten to that 'song.

If the proposition came up again, that would be my response too.  Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

winkyincanada posted:

There i's nothing you can do to make me li'sten to that 'song.

Never say nothing Winky. Even I was able to sit through Robin Thicke's "Blurred Lines" so long as it was attached to the unrated version of the video

I often buy new music that I hear on the radio or at friends' houses and think 'I like that', but I'd never buy anything because I think 'ooh, that sounds good'. Why would anyone do that?

Addendum : I guess you need to have a streamer to just listen to any song not suggesting any one should line our little beibers pockets  purchasing an album

Im going to listen to Robin Thicket tonight UNRATED 

Winky I understand you not wanting to listen to the little fella, but watching him live would be a no no. Is this what you are saying you a  a Beibleiver?

It's all wrong - why do you listen to a system, not music??? I buy music that I like, irrespective of how it's been produced. If it sounds particularly good on my system, that's even more fun

But how do you know until you listen to it? Do we just sit there with blinkers of the music of the past? Although that is digressing from the point. The point is I personally like to listen to new music especially if the quality is excellent surely Im not the only one.

And if the quality was not good, I would save the bank balance and invest in a high quality Amstrad all in one!

With built in telephone

Ricto posted:

People do not listen beyond their own choice 

Why would you? Why would you do anything you don't like if you don't have to?

I remember back in the 80s being forced to listen to jazz because the amp the dealer wanted to sell me did it so well. Funny how it's stuck in my memory because he never got a sale out of me. Trauma probably!

My 'choice' would already preclude the **** that is 'Bieber'. His music and everything he stands for has already taken care of that.

Harry that was funny tortured by jazz!

Ricto posted:

But how do you know until you listen to it? Do we just sit there with blinkers of the music of the past? Although that is digressing from the point. The point is I personally like to listen to new music especially if the quality is excellent surely Im not the only one.

OK Ricto, I am going to turn this around on you.  Get online through whatever streaming service is available to you (unless you own the album of course) and listen to the track 'September in Montreal' by Ann Bisson, it's on the album called 'Blue Mind'.  Once you've listened to it, report back to me how you feel about it in terms of musicality, and for the sake of argument sound quality.  I did listen to Bieber, so this is only fair.  I look forward to your comments.

Thanks Songstress Im at work right now but will do later, I guess its going to be torture more than Jazz! LOL

My recommendation is Lou Reed's Metal Machine Music, It's memorable and will put your system through its paces.

Ricto posted:

Thanks Songstress Im at work right now but will do later, I guess its going to be torture more than Jazz! LOL

Well, I sincerely hope not, but tastes do vary.  

I don't understand the OP's request or point.

If we all listened to that track and all reported that the sound quality seemed good, then do you decide your system is good or bad because to you the sound quality seems good or bad? And what if we all said SQ was bad? Or a mixture of answers?

As for buying recordings, if I like the MUSIC well enough ( meaning I will want to listen again and again), I will buy it even if poor SQ, while bemoaning the quality. But if I don't like the MUSIC, no superlatives regarding SQ would tempt me in the least to even consider buying it.

My own taste in music has changed very little over the years, save for 'discovery' of tragic opera through a live experience. I still like (and play) the music I bought 40+ years ago, just as I do the most recent added music. With rare exceptions I've never liked mainstream 'chart' music, and in general, except for speciality stations avoiding all but styles I overwhelmingly like, I find radio a turn-off musically because I don't appreciate having to suffer or turn off  things I don't like, so when I do find new music it tends to be through hearing something in a friend or my children are listening to or suggest. However the reality is that my music collection of well over 1000 albums will never leave me lacking for music to listen to, so I don't have a craving always to add to it and only do so with something really worthwhile.

Ricto posted:

Every one has listened to a song like it or not and think that sounds really good

I, for one, am pretty certain I've never said that about a song I haven't liked, although I have, for example, said things like "wow, she's got a beutiful voice" - but that is the singer I'm referring to, not the quality of recording.