Rugby Union RWC and Season 2011-12

Posted by: JWM on 13 July 2011

Seems a good idea to turn over to a fresh page for the coming excitement!

We have got some months of RWC warm-up matches and the RWC itself, before we descend into the usual Wasps vs Tigers obsession

But to get us started, here's the fixture list for 2011-12 http://www.leicestertigers.com/rugby/fixtures.php

Posted on: 12 February 2012 by deadlifter

The television coverage seems to dominate all kick off times and dates now  as most of the clubs need the money and although the money on offer is a most attractive proposition it is dealing with the devil and will bite you sooner or later, we get bit often at Tigers with games being changed from Saturday to a Friday evening or a late Sunday afternoon and kick off times being changed

Posted on: 12 February 2012 by JWM
Originally Posted by Happy Listener:

BigH - suspect TV = the answer. It was outrageous to call a game off that late (a local club fixture perhaps OK) but not something of this standing.

 

Vis Youngs, he plays like he wants to run all the time and his pace of delivery from rucks and scrums is often too slow at this level. He takes one or two strides and then passes - classic schoolboy (error) stuff.

Youngs, sadly yes.  He didnt used to play like that.  Who's coached it into him?  He's only 22 so hopefully this is just a blip, but I'm not 100% certain all in hunky dory at the moment with the coaching set up at Leicester, and I say that as a Leicester supporter (in case you didn't know).

Posted on: 19 February 2012 by JWM

In what has been a difficult season so far, it is with a sense of pride that I say "Well done Leicester Tigers!!"  Fantastic and committed effort by every player to a man to achieve a narrow away victory over their current nemesis Saracens 19-20.  A performance by all worthy of the Tigers' jersey, and hopefully an encouragement for the rest of the season.

Posted on: 19 February 2012 by Chillkram
Originally Posted by JWM:

In what has been a difficult season so far, it is with a sense of pride that I say "Well done Leicester Tigers!!"  Fantastic and committed effort by every player to a man to achieve a narrow away victory over their current nemesis Saracens 19-20.  A performance by all worthy of the Tigers' jersey, and hopefully an encouragement for the rest of the season.

Second best all game - got lucky again.

Posted on: 20 February 2012 by deadlifter

Leicester Tigers captain Geordan Murphy has asked the fans to stick with them as they bid to reach an eighth successive Premiership final in a "difficult" World Cup season.

Murphy was responding to criticism from some fans, in letters to the Mercury and on messageboards, who are disillusioned with Leicester's performances.

Last Saturday's shock defeat at Exeter has left Tigers with a fight on their hands to make the top two, and defeat at champions Saracens tomorrow (2.30) could see them drop out of the top four and the play-off places.

But Murphy points out that Tigers have always struggled in World Cup seasons and wants the fans to be patient.

He said: "This is the fourth World Cup I've been here for, and in World Cup seasons there is generally a feeling of being disgruntled and dissatisfied with the way we play.

"In World Cup seasons we have always struggled, always found it difficult.

"It's very difficult. You do pre-season with a bunch of guys. You have 10,12, 15 guys come back in and you try to piece together a team and get yourself a flow, whereas other teams have their patterns and routines and are used to each other.

"Then there's the added pressure of trying to get results to get back up the table. We have been playing a lot of high-pressure rugby.

"I can understand how people can be disgruntled, but I would just say we have been lucky to have a huge amount of success at the club, and that is a result of quality players working very, very hard.

"As a player, I prefer the team to have the knowledge that the fans will support you through thick and thin.

"Sometimes people expect you to have wins every week and, unfortunately, you have to have bad times to appreciate the good times."

Tigers have won silverware just once in the last three World Cup seasons, in 1999-2000 when they won the second of their four successive league titles.

John Griffiths, chairman of the away supporters club, thinks Tigers director of rugby Richard Cockerill will get it right.

Griffiths said: "There are a number of fans who seem to think we have a God-given right to win everything, whatever the circumstances.

"And because things are not going so well at the minute, they are unhappy.

"My view – and I'm a Cockers fan – is that this has been a difficult season. I don't think there's any need to change the coaching set-up. We could still win a trophy."

Posted on: 20 February 2012 by Happy Listener
Originally Posted by JWM:
Originally Posted by Happy Listener:

BigH - suspect TV = the answer. It was outrageous to call a game off that late (a local club fixture perhaps OK) but not something of this standing.

 

Vis Youngs, he plays like he wants to run all the time and his pace of delivery from rucks and scrums is often too slow at this level. He takes one or two strides and then passes - classic schoolboy (error) stuff.

Youngs, sadly yes.  He didnt used to play like that.  Who's coached it into him?  He's only 22 so hopefully this is just a blip, but I'm not 100% certain all in hunky dory at the moment with the coaching set up at Leicester, and I say that as a Leicester supporter (in case you didn't know).

Watched some of the Baa-Baas and Welsh 'Golden Years' DVDs the other day and interesting watching Gareth Edwards play. His pass from line-outs and the base of the scrum took the no.6/7/8 out of the game (or at least a few yards behind the play). Which allowed the 10 onwards to make the play in space.

 

..and the decision to pass was made early, no getting the ball in hand, 2 paces, a quick look up - then pass to a 10 with the line closed up/space gone. Set pieces near the line is where he used his pace and strength.

 

To my eyes this exemplified what happened in the 2nd half against the Italians, where the tempo was picked up and the runners away from the last phase were let loose.   

 

I almost wish Dean Ryan was there for the beeb to do the analysis.

Posted on: 25 February 2012 by Chillkram

Italy did not deserve that scoreline.

Posted on: 25 February 2012 by Chillkram

Not a smashing then.

Posted on: 25 February 2012 by Happy Listener

Re today's England/Wales game:

 

1- Credit to Strettle for the tap tackle on North in the first few minutes. Mr Foden should be buying him a beer tonight!

 

2- Things seemed to go wrong for England when the first wave of subs was made - why change the scrum-half? - see above. Doesn't appear the coaches have done any work since the last game.

 

Matt Stevens was a valuable source of points to the Welsh (my rugby teacher used to ask 'boy, are you playing for the enemy?').

 

3- Loss of Jamie Roberts was a big blow to the Welsh but it ended well - to my eyes a draw would have been fair.

 

Posted on: 25 February 2012 by Chillkram
Originally Posted by Happy Listener:

Re today's England/Wales game:

 

2- Things seemed to go wrong for England when the first wave of subs was made - why change the scrum-half? - see above. Doesn't appear the coaches have done any work since the last game.

 

Matt Stevens was a valuable source of points to the Welsh (my rugby teacher used to ask 'boy, are you playing for the enemy?').

 

 

I thought the turning point was when Wales were a player down and England did not capitalise and then when Farrell did not make it 15-9. Agreed the subs were poor. Youngs gave away a mindless penalty, Matt Stevens is a guarantee of collapsed scrums and penalties to the opposition and Lawes gifted the breakaway try.

 

Nonetheless a much more encouraging performance from England.

Posted on: 26 February 2012 by Happy Listener

What I fail to understand in all this, is that if a materially sized business was 'losing out' in this way, it would be looking very hard at its 'business risks analysis' and making sure 'regular offenders' (those who get 'pinged' regularly - fairly clear to see who these are to my eyes), stop doing it.

 

The margins of success/failure in these games is so tight and the refs to be fair, more often than not, warn players in and around the ruck area, it surely cannot be that hard?

 

I often think a 3 point penalty is too harsh for some offences but if you've been warned then fair play.

 

 

 

Posted on: 26 February 2012 by deadlifter

In my view Wales have got away with it now twice as they would not of won their previous game had Bradley been red carded as was what should of happend full stop and looking at my copy of the Rugby paper this morning it was a clear try with the photo on the front page showing the ball grounded and with that i shall shout........WE WUZ ROBBED M`LUD

Posted on: 03 March 2012 by Chillkram

Victory! At last!

Posted on: 03 March 2012 by JamieWednesday

10th time lucky - Always works out in the end

Posted on: 04 March 2012 by JWM

Pests clinging on by their fingernails!

 

At the other end of the Table there's some interesting business going on.  I know how I want things to go between Leicester and Gloucester this afo.  And hopefully on the back of some good performances recently, and with home form intact (and Glaws away form), it'll be a good LT victory!

 

On the International front, I would see France as favourites, and I guess for the good of the tournament a French victory would keep it wide open.  But as an Englishman good and true, I can't yet work out who I would dislike least to win overall

 

 

Posted on: 04 March 2012 by JamieWednesday

A draw would be good perhaps...

Posted on: 04 March 2012 by JWM

Leicester comprehensively dismantle Gloucester 36-3.

 

Be afraid, be very afraid.

 

Posted on: 04 March 2012 by JamieWednesday
Originally Posted by JamieWednesday:

A draw would be good perhaps...

!!!

Posted on: 04 March 2012 by JWM
Originally Posted by JamieWednesday:

A draw would be good perhaps...


Well predicted with regard to France vs Ireland.  17-17.

Posted on: 04 March 2012 by deadlifter

Fantastic game this afternoon with the Tigers giving a display near their best, Glaws were never in it for some strange reason and were mullered all over the park. I really wanted Ireland to win this afternoon but nevermind.   

Posted on: 04 March 2012 by deadlifter

We really need to get Mulipola signed to us as we want him to stay and he wants to stay as well

Posted on: 04 March 2012 by Chillkram
Originally Posted by deadlifter:

Fantastic game this afternoon with the Tigers giving a display near their best, Glaws were never in it for some strange reason and were mullered all over the park. I really wanted Ireland to win this afternoon but nevermind.   

Funnily enough I agree with all of this! Tigers gave Glaws a real lesson all over the park. And I was hoping for an Irish win too. Should have had a penalty near the end as well.

Posted on: 04 March 2012 by deadlifter

"Funnily enough I agree with all of this!"

 

Bloody hell we will have to stop this agreement otherwise people will think i have turned you.....

Posted on: 04 March 2012 by deadlifter

Although there are some good deals on Tigers jerseys at the moment if your interested....

Posted on: 04 March 2012 by deadlifter

Mind you probably not as cheap as Wasps jerseys.....