How good is the xpsdr?

Posted by: wenger2015 on 10 September 2016

After much delay, ( spent most of summer upgrading the house , selling and buying property is a stressful business). So now have a dedicated hi-fi room,and so decided to finally treat myself to the opportunity of owning a brand new Xpsdr.

After listening to so many forum members singing it's praises , and having listened a couple of times at dealers and Bristol show, both times suitably impressed, I am thinking next stage is  to hear xpsdr on ones own system in ones own home.

Box arrived today, it was opened with much excitement and anticipation, only to find NO brundy cable........!!!!!!!!!

Gutted is an understatement........ Dealer subsequently contacted, missing cable will arrive Tuesday next week.....

So come next Tuesday, will I end up disappointed or elated?  when I finally get to hear xpsdr in action? (Xpsdr will be hooked up to a cdx2)

 

Posted on: 18 September 2016 by hungryhalibut
Adam Zielinski posted:

555PS and XPS would be as close as Ferrari and a Fiat. Both are Italian cars and have the same parent company. That's about it.

PowerLine is just an icing on a cake.

This is far too extreme, and one of those glib comments of the 'X makes y sound broken' school. It's certainly the case, though, that adding a Powerline to an XPS will not make it into a 555PS. 

Posted on: 18 September 2016 by Adam Zielinski
Hungryhalibut posted:
Adam Zielinski posted:

555PS and XPS would be as close as Ferrari and a Fiat. Both are Italian cars and have the same parent company. That's about it.

PowerLine is just an icing on a cake.

This is far too extreme, and one of those glib comments of the 'X makes y sound broken' school. It's certainly the case, though, that adding a Powerline to an XPS will not make it into a 555PS. 

Fair comment Nigel. Although Fiat does make nice cars - should have written Alfa vs Fiat - probably a closer analogy.

Adding a PowerLine to either XPS or 555PS does help of course. It refines the sound - that's probably the closes description I can think of, but it does not alter it dramatically (certainly not in a way to turn XPS into a 555PS).

Posted on: 19 September 2016 by kmchow98

Thanks for the response. I asked because I recently picked up a couple of used powerlines at decent prices. It's a very nice upgrade for my gear. (one to HicapDR, one to SN2 and one to nDAC).

I'm not one who describes upgrades as "day and night" and similar phrases. I don't think any upgrades can "blow my mind".

It's clear that powerlines do their job.

Considering both 555PS-DR and XPS-DR are spec-wise the same. I wonder how much the addition of the powerline to the 555PS lifted the performance. The price difference is big, and a lot of music can be bought....

 

Posted on: 19 September 2016 by nigelb
Frenchnaim posted:

"Need to be careful with the English language, it can be tricky."

I don't think Adam needs to be told to be careful with the English language...

I do realise Adam's English is very good - I was just teasing for goodness sake...

Posted on: 19 September 2016 by Adam Zielinski
nigelb posted:
Frenchnaim posted:

"Need to be careful with the English language, it can be tricky."

I don't think Adam needs to be told to be careful with the English language...

I do realise Adam's English is very good - I was just teasing for goodness sake...

That's how I felt

Posted on: 19 September 2016 by wenger2015

The good news is the 'Fat lady ' is back from her holiday, and now singing away and making me smile, just going to make her a coffee....

Posted on: 19 September 2016 by Finkfan

Great news [@mention:50422349809511500]! I'll bring a couple of pints of milk over on Wednesday morning for a little listen 

Posted on: 19 September 2016 by wenger2015
wenger2015 posted:

The good news is the 'Fat lady ' is back from her holiday, and now singing away and making me smile, just going to make her a coffee....

I might add, SWMBO has caught me in the act of massaging the burndy.....  awkward 

Posted on: 19 September 2016 by wenger2015
Finkfan posted:

Great news [@mention:50422349809511500]! I'll bring a couple of pints of milk over on Wednesday morning for a little listen 

Looking forward to it Finkfan 

Posted on: 19 September 2016 by Adam Zielinski
wenger2015 posted:

I might add, SWMBO has caught me in the act of massaging the burndy.....  awkward 

Excellent!

Posted on: 19 September 2016 by Pcd
Ah but did she take you to hand on this matter?
Posted on: 19 September 2016 by hungryhalibut

Might this be getting a little too much like year 5 playground banter for comfort?

Posted on: 19 September 2016 by wenger2015
Pcd posted:
Ah but did she take you to hand on this matter?

Best not say.....but it did make me smile....

Posted on: 19 September 2016 by Pcd
Brilliant wonderful sense of humour.
Posted on: 19 September 2016 by wenger2015
Hungryhalibut posted:

Might this be getting a little too much like year 5 playground banter for comfort?

For once...i think I agree with you 

Posted on: 19 September 2016 by wenger2015
wenger2015 posted:
Hungryhalibut posted:

Might this be getting a little too much like year 5 playground banter for comfort?

For once...i think I agree with you 

But...as in proper playground fashion..... It was Adams fault ....he started it....

Posted on: 19 September 2016 by nigelb

Yeah Sir….it woz Adam wot started it. I don't know nuffin about it. Honest.

Posted on: 19 September 2016 by wenger2015
nigelb posted:

Yeah Sir….it woz Adam wot started it. I don't know nuffin about it. Honest.

Posted on: 19 September 2016 by Adam Zielinski
nigelb posted:

Yeah Sir….it woz Adam wot started it. I don't know nuffin about it. Honest.

They made me, Sir. Honest....  They made me do it.

Posted on: 19 September 2016 by dave marshall

Or, as us Jocks, well, Glaswegians, at least, say................a big boy did it, and ran away. 

Posted on: 19 September 2016 by JWM

Burndy. Having de-stressed it (hold it at one end by the cable, lift it up enough to let it hang, then oscillate for a bit. Then roughly shape it, plug in the source end, and gently shape to plug in the p/s end.

Then unplug and let it relax. Finally plug it back in, starting with cdp then the XPS.  It should go in much more easily now, with no obvious stress on the cable, which will benefit sound. Try to dress your cables so that they're not touching. Attention to detail yields results with Naim.

Posted on: 20 September 2016 by wenger2015
JWM posted:

Burndy. Having de-stressed it (hold it at one end by the cable, lift it up enough to let it hang, then oscillate for a bit. Then roughly shape it, plug in the source end, and gently shape to plug in the p/s end.

Then unplug and let it relax. Finally plug it back in, starting with cdp then the XPS.  It should go in much more easily now, with no obvious stress on the cable, which will benefit sound. Try to dress your cables so that they're not touching. Attention to detail yields results with Naim.

Hi JWM, Very useful advice , trying to dress the cables without touching is a little challenging though.... 

Posted on: 20 September 2016 by Foot tapper

Indeed Wenger, challenging yet oh so important.  I have found this to be especially true with Burndies.

They are built like a proverbial outhouse, yet are such sensitive souls.  Who'd have thought it?

Hence the wise words from JWM.

Posted on: 20 September 2016 by wenger2015
Foot tapper posted:

Indeed Wenger, challenging yet oh so important.  I have found this to be especially true with Burndies.

They are built like a proverbial outhouse, yet are such sensitive souls.  Who'd have thought it?

Hence the wise words from JWM.

Yes, absolutely agree, 'but oh so tricky'...maybe all the cables need to be massaged and nurtured ..

Posted on: 20 September 2016 by Allante93
Alba1320 posted:

For anyone unaware, useful info. in the FAQ:

https://forums.naimaudio.com/to...a-bit-about-burndies

Now I know where, this information was generated, nice post, large audience.

 Affordable gear, for the balk of the Forum.

 Kind of where Naim starts to get interesting.

Just checking from the sidelines, no hands on experience, using you guys as guinea pig's.

You guys are fortunate, to have an Active Naim Community!

Out!

Allante93!