If you're a vinyl lover, would you prefer it if there were NO crackling of the needle?

Yes correct my grammar!!!

Que?

Needle?

If a vinyl lover, why would you consider 24bit, 96kHz?

Here we go again!

Because there is no crackling, obviously. 

Hm, there are lots of ways to answer that question.  24/96 still doesn't give the ritual that goes with vinyl, would be an easy answer.  Good vinyl in good condition on a good well set up deck doesn't crackly anyway, would be a better one perhaps.  There is also the fact that some vinyl sounds better and more 'real' than the digital version even at 24/96.  I find its better to think of the music and not the medium which means I get the best version I own played and don't get hung up on what format.  

Hungryhalibut posted:

Because there is no crackling, obviously. 

Wot !!!  pork with no crackling    

CD can be breat, hi-res digital can be great, FM is great, streaming can be great, vinyl can be great but it's all to no avail if the musician and his/her engineer/producer gets it wrong and there is no system synergy. 

And to the OP. Of course I'm about to replace my 500+ LPs with high-res downloads.  

As you were lads!

I meant CD can be great.  

I thought you were using an Americanism, 'CD can be beat.' And yes, it can.

Get rid of the crackle, the surface noise, the limited dynamic range, the distortion, the HF & LF compression and we're there.    

Huge posted:

Get rid of the crackle, the surface noise, the limited dynamic range, the distortion, the HF & LF compression and the music.

There, fixed that for you.

Willy.

To quote Manuel from Fawlty Towers:   "¿Qué?"

Huge posted:

Get rid of the crackle, the surface noise, the limited dynamic range, the distortion, the HF & LF compression and we're there.    

What vinyl system are you using?

High res files in theory should sound superb, but to get a half decent sound you’ll need a melco, microRendu, macmini, bit regenerator, various state of the art power supplies, roon, audio nirvana, bit perfect, 8 bay NAS with 16gb ram, various fancy chord cables, ferrite chokes, NDS/555ps and last but not least a hugo, tt or dave.

Of course, in the next twelve months, we’ll have a handful of new devices come to market, all game changers, all able to take digital audio to the next level, all with the claim they're able to make digital audio sound MORE ANALOGUE.

 Probably a better idea to add the crackles to 24bit 96kHz.

^^^ Brilliant!

fatcat posted:

 

 Probably a better idea to add the crackles to 24bit 96kHz.

or a cheap way to get digital sounding 'analogue' is to nick all your music from Russian torrents. Plus you get free wife if send roubles.

Made the change myself, but crackles were onlynpart of the equation.

Streaming does seem to allow for better quality, but 24/96 is not necessarily better than red book: presumably mainly because of different mastering, but sometimes also possibly because there are inferior vinlyl rips out there (and upsampled files). Best example Of the mastering difference I know is ROger Waters' Amused to death which is superb quality as a straight CD rip (16/44), but the 2015 24/192 remaster is distinctly inferior sound quality. When, however, digital recordings are transferred after mastering at native hi res and then CD copies made by downsampling the high res copies then indeed have the potential to sound better.

but perhaps I was wrong to answer, because I am no longer a vinyl lover, though I was a while ago.

Because i like flipping the record.

GerryMcg posted:

Huge posted:

Get rid of the crackle, the surface noise, the limited dynamic range, the distortion, the HF & LF compression and we're there.    

What vinyl system are you using?

NAC-N 272 (N.B. some of the cables in the system have a vinyl outer sheath).

I used to use a Thorens TD166, but stopped using vinyl because of the aforementioned effects.

But you can not see digital going round and round, for me vinyl playings allure is the hypnotic draw to the centre of the music. plus that tactile way of being responsible with a light touch. I could enjoy it without any volume. That crackle is like gold dust sprinkled on a memorable occasion.

First off, Thanks Conciousmess! 

Perhaps an Post where members don't haft to bash each other upside the Head!

Ok, no more exclamation marks! LOL. 

But Simon has laid the ground work for this argument.

Paraphrasing, No longer just the Analog TT, The Digital CD, and Digital Streaming, but choice depending on Music and Mood.

And yes, all this navigated by the prehistoric Pre Amp.

Now, I know a young man, who belongs to this very Forum, he has chosen the S1, Pre, but his preference is the inferior CD555, now he owns a TT, but is considering abandoning the Analog TT.

Another Young man, has the means to also own both the LP 12 and CD555, he prefers the LP 12, but when the MUSIC is not available, he has to resort the the the inferior CD, with his Briks.

I'm an old fart, considering entering into the Streaming World, but slowly! 

I Purchased My LP 12 in 1986 for $1486 USD, sold it last year, $1550.

Why, Like the Big Fish said, Because there is no crackling, obviously.

NDS, LP 12, and CD555, a bit much to handle, unless you're just cut like that! 

Most Common folk, will decide on two formats, out of the Three. I love Hi Fi, and chatting with you guys.  Earlier this year, I had the opportunity to hear the 109K David Willsons new kid on the Block Alex. Nice, Indeed, with the D' Agostonio Mono Blocks. Time was an issue, but if I recall correctly, the host demonstrated all three sources, Out of 20 min span, I thinking about 8 -10 mins CD, then about 2 mins on a 30K TT, then 4-5 mins Streaming. The TT sounding Smooth, warm, but that Snap Crackle, Pop, just portions of 2 tunes, that I know! 

Ok, getting long winded! 

But Take your choice, two out the Three, Not Just ONE.

Allante93! 

fatcat posted:

Vinyl in theory should sound superb, but to get a half decent sound you’ll need an Aro, Circus, Keel, Radical, various state of the art power supplies, overpriced 180g finest Colombian extruded polyvinyl, audio nirvana, Ekos SE, Kandid, various fancy chord cables, Klimax LP12, and last but not least a Urika.

Of course, in the next twelve months, we’ll have a handful of new devices come to market, all game changers, all able to take analogue audio to the next level, all with the claim they're able to make analogue audio sound MORE ANALOGUE.

 Probably a better idea to add the crackles to 24bit 96kHz.

Plus ca change.....

TOBYJUG posted:

But you can not see digital going round and round, for me vinyl playings allure is the hypnotic draw to the centre of the music.

You should try the Tidal app - it really does my head in...