Linn Urika connection to NAC 252

Posted by: Adam Zielinski on 01 October 2016

Hi

Currently running my LP12 with a Urika connected via Linn-supplied RCA-RCA cables (using RCA Aux2 input).
I'm thinking about upgrading those, as part of an upcoming LP12 upgrade (changing a sub-chassis and an arm). 

Any experiences, suggestions? 

For example would say, SuperLumina RCA > DIN be a noticable and worthwile improvement?

Thanks,

Adam

Posted on: 01 October 2016 by Chris Dolan

Adam

I changed my Linn Silvers on my Urika for Chord Sarum Super ARAY phono to DIN - I much prefer the Chord to Super Lumina interconnects in my system, but others of course differ.

I love it 

However, what will the rest of the LP12 comprise after your other planned changes?

Posted on: 01 October 2016 by varyat

Went from Linn Silvers to Chord Sarum STA and then to Super Sarum. This is an upgrade very much worth doing after the rest of the deck is sorted. Make sure you go RCA/Din , the Din makes a difference here !

ATB,

Mark

Posted on: 01 October 2016 by Adam Zielinski
Chris Dolan posted:

Adam

I changed my Linn Silvers on my Urika for Chord Sarum Super ARAY phono to DIN - I much prefer the Chord to Super Lumina interconnects in my system, but others of course differ.

I love it 

However, what will the rest of the LP12 comprise after your other planned changes?

Thanks.

Essentially it will be a full Klimax specs, except for a catridge.

Posted on: 01 October 2016 by Adam Zielinski
varyat posted:

Went from Linn Silvers to Chord Sarum STA and then to Super Sarum. This is an upgrade very much worth doing after the rest of the deck is sorted. Make sure you go RCA/Din , the Din makes a difference here !

ATB,

Mark

Thanks Mark.

There are also XLR outputs on the Urika, but I guess it makes no difference wheter RCA or XLR is being used. Or?

I will certainly terminate it with a DIN on the amp end.

Adam

Posted on: 01 October 2016 by Chris Dolan
Adam Zielinski posted::

Essentially it will be a full Klimax specs, except for a catridge.

Then you ought to seriously think about the cable - also try a Mayware phono to DIN adapter as an interim measure, you might like what it does 

Posted on: 01 October 2016 by Adam Zielinski
Frank F posted:

Hi Adam,

Phono to DIN is obligatory IMO.  I am using the Chord Sarum STA but it was a special order as the standard length is not long enough on a Fraim but you might get away with a standard length with your set up?  The other consideration is that Chord STA/TAs are very stiff - great for dressing but there can be a lot of strain in the cabling. Obviously SL is much more flexible but it can be compromised by touching things!!

Get your dealer to loan you a phono to DIN STA??????  Naim AROs are excellent if you can find one and IMHO better than Ekos SEs, you must obey Polish drink driving laws if you use an ARO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FF

Hi Frank

Good point with regards to the length. I will need to do some measuring. I'm sure my dealer can lend me some exotic cables - he's used to it by now with me.

I remember you mentioning ARO I always obey the Polish Highway Code (well... Sort of... )

Adam

Posted on: 01 October 2016 by rjstaines

I changed from Linn silvers (phono/phono) to Super Lumia  phono to din.  Well worth the change, more of everything in the right place on the sound stage.  I had run the SLs in for 200hrs using a CD player on repeat before connecting them to the turntable.

I had rejected the Chord cables on two fronts: firstly I thought they would be too stiff and secondly I had never properly heard them in my system. OK, I hear and respsct the gasps of dismay.

Subsequently I've replaced S/L signal cables*  with Super Array for all the right reasons - the SA are superb!  However the S/L Urika to 552 remains in place, as do the S/L speaker cables.   Both life and money are too short to do any further changes on these two fronts !

*  NDS to 552 & 552PS to 500

Posted on: 01 October 2016 by Iron Cobra

Adam,

Using RCA/DIN on my urika for 10 months now.  Says it all

 

Posted on: 01 October 2016 by joe9407
Adam Zielinski posted:
I remember you mentioning ARO I always obey the Polish Highway Code (well... Sort of... )

Adam

since you "drive 55" -- as we say here in the States -- i will mention that there's a very nice Aro available in the USA at the moment...

Posted on: 01 October 2016 by Chris Dolan
Frank F posted:

Naim AROs are excellent if you can find one and IMHO better than Ekos SEs

Aros are indeed excellent, but compatible Keels can be hard to come by unless you know the right man 

Posted on: 01 October 2016 by Adam Zielinski
Frank F posted:
Chris Dolan posted:
Frank F posted:

Naim AROs are excellent if you can find one and IMHO better than Ekos SEs

Aros are indeed excellent, but compatible Keels can be hard to come by unless you know the right man 

Yes, the ARO Keel is also rare but as Chris says, there are dealers who know.

FF

Ok - now I'm curious

I think I will email this chap.

Posted on: 01 October 2016 by Graham Russell

I also used to use Chord STA phono->din when I had my 552.

Posted on: 01 October 2016 by varyat
joe9407 posted:
Adam Zielinski posted:
I remember you mentioning ARO I always obey the Polish Highway Code (well... Sort of... )

Adam

since you "drive 55" -- as we say here in the States -- i will mention that there's a very nice Aro available in the USA at the moment...

Yes, that is a nice one for sure ! Given the asking price it would be an excellent alternative to the Ekos SE for someone looking for a new arm for their LP12  !

ATB,

Mark

Posted on: 01 October 2016 by joe9407

indeed, Mark! one of these days, Thor willing, i'll get another Aro and stash it in the sideboard -- you know, just in case anything happens.

Posted on: 01 October 2016 by varyat

Excellent thinking Joe- the Aro is timeless. Fortunately, i already have a stash...

ATB,

Mark

Posted on: 02 October 2016 by J.N.

Linn Silvers to Super Lumina RCA-DIN on an Aro/Kandid/Keel/Urethra equipped gramophone here. A huge improvement; allowing for the usual run-in issues, and albeit as part of a SL full loom.

Interestingly; I've discovered that if I have a period of several weeks not playing vinyl; when I return to the black-platter spinner, it sounds like the SL interconnect needs waking-up again, or a sort of mini run-in to bring back its full potential.

Wires eh? Weird.

John.

Posted on: 06 October 2016 by Chris Dolan
Adam Zielinski posted:
Frank F posted:
Chris Dolan posted:
Frank F posted:

Naim AROs are excellent if you can find one and IMHO better than Ekos SEs

Aros are indeed excellent, but compatible Keels can be hard to come by unless you know the right man 

Yes, the ARO Keel is also rare but as Chris says, there are dealers who know.

Ok - now I'm curious  I think I will email this chap.

Adam - I know that Peter Swain at Cymbiosis recently had more Aro Keels in stock - finding an Aro might be more difficult

Posted on: 06 October 2016 by Adam Zielinski

Chris - I am already in touch with Peter. I still need to make my mind up if I go down the Aro or Ekos SE route.

Posted on: 06 October 2016 by Chris Dolan

They are both very good - I would not swap my Aro for an Ekos SE but could completely understand why someone would choose to go for an Ekos SE rather than a quirky discontinued wonderful tone arm 

Posted on: 06 October 2016 by naim_nymph

Chord Super Sarum Aray has a musical gain in SQ that outclasses SL cable.

The white shielded cable has a useful rigidity that is very helpful with cable dressing.

The RCA/DIN [Urika to Naim-Pre] can be purchased from Cymbiosis at an optional 1.2 meter length [instead of 1 meter]

Chord SSA interconnects are a massive musical upgrade over the standard cables or Highlines, and present excellent synergy when used together as a full SSA i/c loom. A further advantage is the excellent compatibility with NAC A5, this presents the wonderful option of not feeling the need to spend thousands more on very expensive speaker cables.

Debs 

Posted on: 06 October 2016 by tonym

I'm also a fan of Chord SSA, a wonderfully musical interconnect. Folk should definitely be giving  a run-in example a good try before buying SL.

Posted on: 06 October 2016 by Adam Zielinski

Thanks Debs, thanks Tony!

Posted on: 07 October 2016 by Adam Zielinski

Frank - I have a meeting with my dealer next week to discuss the financials of the upgrade. Most likely will go for Ekos SE - mostly for the ease of use Don't want to frighten Ewa too  much.

I also mentioned to him that he should start thinking about the Chord SSA cable for the upgrade and calculate the suitable discounts

 

 

Posted on: 07 October 2016 by naim_nymph
Frank F posted:

Debs, are your cables are touching??

FF

no my aren't, why are yours?  

Debs

Posted on: 07 October 2016 by Chris Dolan

The concern is touching though