Introducing Uniti, our revolutionary new streaming platform.

Guy007 posted:

tonym posted:

Naim have done their market research well. There are thousands of people out there with large CD collections who are reluctant to take the step into ripped digital files. I can think of at least a dozen folk who this applies to. They have no interest in computers, or are confused by the whelter of options that have sprung up. This is a very elegant, simple route into the technology.

Tony, but to access the devices, it looks like you need a phone or table to put the app on, no controller comes with them ? 

I know a lot of folks in the UK like there Brennan's (my Dad included) that was previously meeting this niche.

I think folk are very likely to use a smartphone these days, it's far more user-friendly than a computer.

David Hendon posted:

Guy007 posted:

 

 

 

I know a lot of folks in the UK like there Brennan's (my Dad included) that was previously meeting this niche.

I had a Brennan JB7 in my home office for a few months but it was the discovery of how rubbish Brennan's 320kbps MP3 files sounded compared with their WAV that set me off on the Naim journey a couple of years back. A very expensive discovery indeed.....

I was instantly put off a Brennan the moment I saw one at my dentist!

I do not like to control the volume with the app. It is not very exact to handle and you do not have a good visual feedback at what volume you currently are. I would expect a + and a - button that can be touched multiple times to rise or lower the volume instead of the slider. Also displaying the currently set volume in the app beside these controls would be good.

So I am using the normal remote to control the volume with an eye on the uniti's display.

David Hendon posted:

I had a Brennan JB7 in my home office for a few months but it was the discovery of how rubbish Brennan's 320kbps MP3 files sounded compared with their WAV that set me off on the Naim journey a couple of years back. A very expensive discovery indeed.....

That's what my Dad has, hooked up to his Denon Micro.... but I'm trying to get him onto the Muso Qb...

Richard Dane posted:

Yes, you get a controller.  For those who don't wish to use a tablet or phone there is a rather nice looking RF remote control that comes with the new Unitis.

Here's a picture from Andrew Everard's blog;

Thanks for the clarification Richard, I hadn't seen it posted only the app.

And it does look smart. I use to work in Logitech's Harmony Remote's group, I know a lot of debate goes into what to include or not.

tonym posted:

I think folk are very likely to use a smartphone these days, it's far more user-friendly than a computer.

Fair point Tony, the iPad revolutionized things for my mum.

DUPREE posted:

Oh, I thought you meant by controller a touch screen interactive controller.
> On Oct 7, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Naim Audio Forums <alerts@hoop.la> wrote:
>

On those nice screens, it would be good if they were touch. Richard / Phil - can you clarify ?

Guy, I can only assume so.  I haven't seen any of them in the flesh yet and know only what has been posted by the press. Hopefully i'll be able to get to the Indulgence show and take a look and learn more about them.  Hopefully Phil can clarify here.

Pcd posted:

Designed and manufactured in the UK.

What is your source of information ?

Oh..  Just discovered there is no digital out to be used with the great Chord Hugo as a heaphone amp!

:-(

djh1697 posted:

Pcd posted:

Designed and manufactured in the UK.

What is your source of information ?

On the first page of this thread, the photos of the back of the Uniti's show 'designed and made in England' below/beside the Naim logo.

So after all this - we have no 372, 572 or Statement Streamer and the existing pre-amps have not been condemned.

Oh presume the amplification in the new products are not DR?

Regards,

Lindsay

Guy007 posted:

DUPREE posted:

Oh, I thought you meant by controller a touch screen interactive controller.
> On Oct 7, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Naim Audio Forums <alerts@hoop.la> wrote:
>

On those nice screens, it would be good if they were touch. Richard / Phil - can you clarify ?

No - they are not touch screens ...

Phil

Yes existing range of pre amps is now 14 years old , tape monitor anyone ? 

As someone with a 282 / 250 dr / hi cap dr amps it is safe to say I will be doing no more upgrading until a new refreshed range is released.

naim seem to be targeting the John Lewis market and the premier league footballers leaving nothing for the rest of us with classic system kit.

very disappointed that it looks like another long wait for something new for us.

Jude2012 posted:

A question for Phil (when he returns from da pub)  -

Can Naim ripped files or other downloaded files stored in the Core be exported and used in other non Naim products without losing meatada ?

Jude 

You can access the rips in the same method as on the current serves...

Phil

djh1697 posted:

Pcd posted:

Designed and manufactured in the UK.

What is your source of information ?

I'm pretty sure I've confirmed it in one of these threads... :-)

Phil

jonnaim posted:

Yes existing range of pre amps is now 14 years old , tape monitor anyone ? 

As someone with a 282 / 250 dr / hi cap dr amps it is safe to say I will be doing no more upgrading until a new refreshed range is released.

naim seem to be targeting the John Lewis market and the premier league footballers leaving nothing for the rest of us with classic system kit.

 

very disappointed that it looks like another long wait for something new for us.

I'm sorry my point was just referring to the fact that after all the speculation the existing pre amps had not been condemned.  I don't think that's bad at all although no doubt they will be refreshed in due course.  And the tape monitor is very useful for running the Headline.  But the 272 is only 18 months old, the SN2 2/3 years, the DR upgrades are very recent - give it a break.

Guy007 posted:

Richard Dane posted:

Yes, you get a controller.  For those who don't wish to use a tablet or phone there is a rather nice looking RF remote control that comes with the new Unitis.

Here's a picture from Andrew Everard's blog;

Thanks for the clarification Richard, I hadn't seen it posted only the app.

And it does look smart. I use to work in Logitech's Harmony Remote's group, I know a lot of debate goes into what to include or not.

It's a two-way remote too so volume is shown in the ring of LEDs around the four-way cluster...

Phil

jonnaim posted:

Yes existing range of pre amps is now 14 years old , tape monitor anyone ? 

As someone with a 282 / 250 dr / hi cap dr amps it is safe to say I will be doing no more upgrading until a new refreshed range is released.

naim seem to be targeting the John Lewis market and the premier league footballers leaving nothing for the rest of us with classic system kit.

 

very disappointed that it looks like another long wait for something new for us.

Apart from perhaps a case redesign ... what are you expecting with an "upgraded" (non-streaming) preamp or power amp?  Perhaps the reason they haven't been new pre-amps is that Naim haven't been able to improve on them significantly.

As for sources (streamers), I would guess that once the Uniti line have been launched fully, the technology used will be fed into the ND line - it doesn't make sense (to my thinking) that Naim would keep two platforms running in the medium to long term - now whether the UI will be the same or if the ND line will stick with mono screens as currently and case design, etc. remain to be seen; I've no idea if it's possible but I'm sure Naim would win many friends if there was possibility of upgrading the streaming modules within the existing ND and NAC-N lines keeping the same case / form / analogue electronics.  (note this is complete speculation)

jonnaim posted:

Yes existing range of pre amps is now 14 years old , tape monitor anyone ? 

As someone with a 282 / 250 dr / hi cap dr amps it is safe to say I will be doing no more upgrading until a new refreshed range is released.

naim seem to be targeting the John Lewis market and the premier league footballers leaving nothing for the rest of us with classic system kit.

 

very disappointed that it looks like another long wait for something new for us.

I honestly don't think that's a fair assessment. The Classic amps sounds brilliant. You mention yourself the DR upgrade, which was recent and very well received. Naim don't - unlike some others - do 'marketing upgrades'; they only refresh the range if there's a genuine improvement to be made. This has a very positive effect on second-hand prices and system matching. 

I don't know what you have against John Lewis customers and footballers, but I guess they might like hi fi too, unless they're disqualified by not shopping at specialist dealers? Not everyone knows whether the 282 or 252 are higher in the range, nor cares. The target market for the new Uniti range is much the same as the old one I would have thought. 

We should give Naim a pat on the back for this - a great little company at the top of its game - instead of berating them.

Eloise posted:

jonnaim posted:

Yes existing range of pre amps is now 14 years old , tape monitor anyone ? 

As someone with a 282 / 250 dr / hi cap dr amps it is safe to say I will be doing no more upgrading until a new refreshed range is released.

naim seem to be targeting the John Lewis market and the premier league footballers leaving nothing for the rest of us with classic system kit.

 

very disappointed that it looks like another long wait for something new for us.

Apart from perhaps a case redesign ... what are you expecting with an "upgraded" (non-streaming) preamp or power amp?  Perhaps the reason they haven't been new pre-amps is that Naim haven't been able to improve on them significantly.

As for sources (streamers), I would guess that once the Uniti line have been launched fully, the technology used will be fed into the ND line - it doesn't make sense (to my thinking) that Naim would keep two platforms running in the medium to long term - now whether the UI will be the same or if the ND line will stick with mono screens as currently and case design, etc. remain to be seen; I've no idea if it's possible but I'm sure Naim would win many friends if there was possibility of upgrading the streaming modules within the existing ND and NAC-N lines keeping the same case / form / analogue electronics.  (note this is complete speculation)

My thoughts exactly. Let's see.

It seems to me that Naim introduced Muso (& Qb) to 'introduce' peeps to the brand and show that you don't need to spend a fortune on Hifi to get a decent sound. The aim must be to eventually upsell some of these Muso newbees to something…well…a little better. But the Uniti range, the clear contender for most of the upselling potential was falling behind a little. So enter the new Uniti range. Much more attractive, presumably much more capable (in SQ and functional terms) and the obvious next step for the MuSo newbees who have decided they want more.

Once you have sampled what true hi res streaming is cable of with a proper pair of speakers, next thing you know these not-so-newbies are looking for their next fix - ooh let's see, the classic range looks tempting.

Very smart strategy, and commercially essential in these days of a static, if not shrinking hifi market.