Introducing Uniti, our revolutionary new streaming platform.

Allan Milne posted:

... or are the built-in DACs in the new all-in-ones better than the existing Naim DAcs

That will be difficult to assess, as there don't seem to be any digital outputs on the new streamers.

Still waiting for a stand-alone DAC-less streamer...

Thanks for the prices Nigel.

Big question Tony is it Wanky or Wonky.

I still don't know if any of these products will improve my system as I can't fathom out where they go, systemwise.

Would the "Core" have the ability to upscale servicing at 24 bit for all files like Asset can ?

Very, very nice looking units Naim, so much nicer styling, gets my vote. I'm now off to my local Naim dealer to buy a new (to me) SuperUniti for pretty much the same price as The Atom!! 

Happy Days

They look very good indeed, while still being quintessentially Naim. 

I notice a power button on the front panel, will these be the first Naim products  designed not to be powered on all the time?

As the owner or both UniQute and SuperUniti these do seem like true upgrades. (Although I doubt I will upgrade). It's a pity they didn't use the opportunity to integrate with Roon but they obviously see Roon as a competitor rather than complimentary. (I use Roon with my 3 Naim systems- they work excellently together). However the addition of AirPlay will allow them to be used with Roon and Roon is working on chromecast compatibility so all is not lost. 

SJB

Ikoun posted:

Would the "Core" have the ability to upscale servicing at 24 bit for all files like Asset can ?

And what good would that do?

Allan Milne posted:

What Hi-Fi are quoting £1,600 for the Uniti Core - I thought the current UnitiServ was over £2k at present

... how does that work?

The Uniti Core comes without a hard drive (according to Andrew's website)

Allan Milne posted:

 

What Hi-Fi are quoting £1,600 for the Uniti Core - I thought the current UnitiServ was over £2k at present

... how does that work?

 

It's called know how, Unitiserve was one of the early entrance .

Evolution ( not substitution)benefitting from  investments did the rest.

Jan-Erik Nordoen posted:

Allan Milne posted:

What Hi-Fi are quoting £1,600 for the Uniti Core - I thought the current UnitiServ was over £2k at present

... how does that work?

The Uniti Core comes without a hard drive (according to Andrew's website)

    according to the 2016 price list:

Richard Dane posted:

However, for me, it's potentially the Uniti Core that is most interesting.  A proper power supply at last and the swappable HDD along with Naim's (improved?) ripping and serving software and a nice BNC s/pdif out for local DAC connection. Could be something special...

It's hard to keep up with all this excitement this morning and work as well. But I agree with Richard and the Uniti Core I might well be persuaded to buy.

best

David

Adam Zielinski posted:

Ikoun posted:

Would the "Core" have the ability to upscale servicing at 24 bit for all files like Asset can ?

And what good would that do?

upscaling reduces jitter. I guess it can help improve SQ

"upscaling reduces jitter" how?

Sloop, the units incorporate a standby function, hence the power buttons on the front. 

From a recent discussion with Naim's MD Trevor Wilson, I understand that the design of the new units along with the new "build cell" reorganisation has decreased the amount of time it takes to fully build each unit.  As one of the biggest costs of building by hand in Salisbury is the labour, this greater efficiency means you get more "product" for your money.  For units that are going to sell in big numbers (the pre-order numbers are already impressive) creating that kind of efficiency is essential.  

Hungryhalibut posted:

the £2999 Uniti Star, complete with built-in CD ripping and music storage;

Does it have music storage built in (i.e. internal HDD) or is the music storage via USB connected HDD?

Richard Dane posted:

Sloop, the units incorporate a standby function, hence the power buttons on the front. 

From a recent discussion with Naim's MD Trevor Wilson, I understand that the design of the new units along with the new "build cell" reorganisation has decreased the amount of time it takes to fully build each unit.  As one of the biggest costs of building by hand in Salisbury is the labour, this greater efficiency means you get more "product" for your money.  For units that are going to sell in big numbers (the pre-order numbers are already impressive) creating that kind of efficiency is essential.  

That has to be good news for Naim, and so good news for all interested in a healthy Naim future

Jan-Erik Nordoen posted:

The Uniti Core comes without a hard drive (according to Andrew's website)

Correct: Naim says it's currently doing some testing, and will shortly come up with a list of 'approved' hard drives, either for buyers to fit for themselves or for retailers to install.

Sloop John B posted:

As the owner or both UniQute and SuperUniti these do seem like true upgrades. (Although I doubt I will upgrade). It's a pity they didn't use the opportunity to integrate with Roon but they obviously see Roon as a competitor rather than complimentary. (I use Roon with my 3 Naim systems- they work excellently together). However the addition of AirPlay will allow them to be used with Roon and Roon is working on chromecast compatibility so all is not lost. 

Hi Sloop,

Roon integration is on the list of information that I'm allowed to give you and is planned to "be activated in the near future"...

Phil

Eloise, the Star rips to local storage - either a USB drive or memory card.

the second slot on the front lower of the Core, added or dropped?

Eloise posted:

Hungryhalibut posted:

the £2999 Uniti Star, complete with built-in CD ripping and music storage;

Does it have music storage built in (i.e. internal HDD) or is the music storage via USB connected HDD?

Only 'Core' can have an internal hard disc drive...

Phil

yeti42 posted:

the second slot on the front lower of the Core, added or dropped?

Not sure what you mean there?

Phil

jon honeyball posted:

"upscaling reduces jitter" how?

My assumption was that ikoun meant actually upsampling and then jitter reduction is done because reclocking and filtering out the original data
are integral part of the process

My NAP200 has a power button on the front. I've even pressed it occasionally (an odd number of times, in fact). 

Innocent Bystander posted:

Richard Dane posted:

From a recent discussion with Naim's MD Trevor Wilson, I understand that the design of the new units along with the new "build cell" reorganisation has decreased the amount of time it takes to fully build each unit.  As one of the biggest costs of building by hand in Salisbury is the labour, this greater efficiency means you get more "product" for your money.  For units that are going to sell in big numbers (the pre-order numbers are already impressive) creating that kind of efficiency is essential.  

That has to be good news for Naim, and so good news for all interested in a healthy Naim future

There are some obvious cost-saving aspects here for Naim. The current range is quite disparate in terms of components, including volume controls, chips, boards, casing and so on, which costs money and is inflexible. The new Uniti standardises (and probably modularises) more, enabling Naim to buy in bulk for lower cost, but more crucially to gain flexibility in stock and workflow management. We should expect NDX, 272, etc to go this way next, and finally the amps, etc, on a cosmetic level if nothing else.

There is also the benefit of replacing the faulty Unitiserve range. That will be quite interesting - next time one goes wrong, will they swap it for a Core? My guess is the Core is totally different inside from the US, based on third-party software and probably Linux-variant OS (as the Syno and QNAP) rather than Windows. Again, that will make life much easier for Naim.

All that said, if they sound like a bag of nails then it won't work. But I'm very optimistic on that front - Naim know exactly what they're doing on sound quality.