Album cover art

Posted by: Rjt36 on 09 October 2016

Hello,

I know this has been covered - but I can't seem to find a solution to displaying cover art on the Naim app on my iPad/iPhone using Synology UpNp. I am using a Mac with iTunes to rip the cd (apple lossless) to the media server software on the Nas before streaming to the N272. 

Strangely of all the hundreds of albums I've ripped, only one displays cover art on the Naim app?!?

Can anyone give me a simple fix, please?  Thank you.

Posted on: 09 October 2016 by Huge

You need to put the cover image in the same folder as the music files and call it folder.jpg or cover.jpg.

Posted on: 09 October 2016 by james n

Depending on how the media server handles artwork, you may have problems with iTunes ripped libraries. Some will read the artwork embedded in the music files, other (as Huge mentions above) need a separate .jpg image in the same album folder. 

If you take a look at the files you've copied to the media server - are they just plain music files or can you see artwork in them. It'll probably be the former as iTunes normally stores the artwork separately in an album art folder. To get the artwork embedded in the music files, google 'Dougs scripts' - you'll find loads of scripts here for iTunes - look for 'embed artwork' . Download and try this with a few files, check again by looking at the files themselves to see if you can see the artwork and then check if the media server finds the artwork and displays it. 

If you've embedded the artwork and your media server will still not display it, then Doug has another script which will take the artwork and create a .jpg in the album folder - 'Save Album Art to Album Folder'. This should do the trick. 

One other thing, i'd use something like XLD as the ripper - it's better than iTunes, particularly with less pristine discs. I still use iTunes to manage my library but decided to use XLD instead after trying out a few when i last did a major (and final !) re-rip of my music collection. XLD integrates nicely with iTunes (you can get it to import directly into iTunes) and it also embeds the artwork automatically too. 

Hope that helps get you sorted

James

 

Posted on: 09 October 2016 by Huge

Ah, I hadn't spotted the iTunes reference.  I'm with James, use something like XLD, much more reliable and often more accurate / consistent rips.

James, I use Synology Media server, and it uses folder.jpg or cover.jpg for the folder / album artwork; it only uses the embedded image for the individual tracks.

Posted on: 09 October 2016 by NickSeattle

I have recently learned iTunes does not embed the art into each song's metadata automatically.  When iTunes downloads art, it is saved to a folder and referenced by the iTunes app.  ITunes will embed if you do it manually, after ripping.  Select the songs you want and Get Info, then paste the art into the window.

XLD will do this for you at rip time, if you set it to do so.

Adding the art as folder.jpg usually works too.

Nick

Posted on: 10 October 2016 by tonym

Having recently moved my music files to a Melco from my iTunes collection, I discovered this too. I now use DbPoweramp for ripping, and I've been using Jaikoz for retagging the existing files, which makes a very good fist of sorting everything out properly, plus it does lots of other clever stuff which I may eventually get to grips with. Huge's fix is good, just find and save the artwork, rename the file as folder.jpg, and pop it in the appropriate music folder.

Posted on: 10 October 2016 by Adam Zielinski

Just a small note: the default name for Naim to display cover art is:

folder.jpg

 

Posted on: 10 October 2016 by Phil Harris
Adam Zielinski posted:

Just a small note: the default name for Naim to display cover art is:

folder.jpg

 

That's the default name that our UPnP server uses on the UnitiServe and HDX but not necessarily the original posters UPnP server - this is sounding like a UPnP server issue where the UPnP server isn't correctly picking up and relaying cover art to the app / streamer.

Phil 

Posted on: 10 October 2016 by Phil Harris
Rjt36 posted:

Hello,

I know this has been covered - but I can't seem to find a solution to displaying cover art on the Naim app on my iPad/iPhone using Synology UpNp. I am using a Mac with iTunes to rip the cd (apple lossless) to the media server software on the Nas before streaming to the N272. 

Strangely of all the hundreds of albums I've ripped, only one displays cover art on the Naim app?!?

Can anyone give me a simple fix, please?  Thank you.

Hi,

iTunes is a bit of a poor source of music if you want to go outside the Apple ecosystem ... certainly its tagging of files with cover art seems very hit and miss so my suggestion would be to take one album, run that through a Tag Editor of your choice and add cover art to that album then see if that album then shows cover art in the app ... the issue that you are seeing strongly sounds like either the files aren't tagged with cover art or that the artwork contained within the tags isn't being picked up by your UPnP server.

Phil  

Posted on: 10 October 2016 by Adam Zielinski
Phil Harris posted:
Adam Zielinski posted:

Just a small note: the default name for Naim to display cover art is:

folder.jpg

 

That's the default name that our UPnP server uses on the UnitiServe and HDX but not necessarily the original posters UPnP server - this is sounding like a UPnP server issue where the UPnP server isn't correctly picking up and relaying cover art to the app / streamer.

Phil 

Of course....

So used to my UnitiServe that I sometimes forget other UPnP servers work differently.

Posted on: 10 October 2016 by hungryhalibut

Using dbpoweramp and Asset, I never bother with the folder at all. I just embed the cover art in the FLAC files. Most downloads seem to come like this anyway. 

Posted on: 10 October 2016 by Mike-B

I do the same,  except,   the art .jpg is embedded in WAV metadata & although this means there is no need to keep a .jpg,   I do keep it with the music if I've changed the art - picture or pixel size - from the original.   

Posted on: 10 October 2016 by Phil Harris
Mike-B posted:

I do the same,  except,   the art .jpg is embedded in WAV metadata & although this means there is no need to keep a .jpg,   I do keep it with the music if I've changed the art - picture or pixel size - from the original.   

I keep a folder.jpg in the folder so that Windows Explorer shows me cover art when I'm browsing using my Windows machines...

Phil

Posted on: 10 October 2016 by NickSeattle

Embedding is the least space efficient way to handle album art.  Saving the art as folder.jpg seems to be a standard across many server apps.  Not sure if there is any advantage to Apple's apparently proprietary method, which is optimized to work well with iPods and iPhones, etc., presumably.

Nick

Posted on: 10 October 2016 by Rjt36

Thank you so very much, everyone. I have managed to get artwork to flow across to the Naim app by using XLD. I still can't figure out how to get iTunes to flow artwork across to the app, despite manually adding cover art to iTunes (even when saved as .jpeg). But at least, I have a solution for new rips! 

Posted on: 10 October 2016 by Kacper
Rjt36 posted:

Hello,

I know this has been covered - but I can't seem to find a solution to displaying cover art on the Naim app on my iPad/iPhone using Synology UpNp. I am using a Mac with iTunes to rip the cd (apple lossless) to the media server software on the Nas before streaming to the N272. 

Strangely of all the hundreds of albums I've ripped, only one displays cover art on the Naim app?!?

Can anyone give me a simple fix, please?  Thank you.

On my mac I'm using "Meta - Music Tag Editor Audio Metadata", very simple and easy to use.

What kind of audio format did you choose in "import settings" - ITunes?

Kacper

Posted on: 11 October 2016 by Phil Harris
NickSeattle posted:

Embedding is the least space efficient way to handle album art.  Saving the art as folder.jpg seems to be a standard across many server apps.  Not sure if there is any advantage to Apple's apparently proprietary method, which is optimized to work well with iPods and iPhones, etc., presumably.

Nick

Hi Nick,

It might not be the most space efficient but storage space is generally not in short supply nowadays and it's quite handy to keep the tags fully populated - for example so that if you were to create a folder full of your favourite tracks from different albums and play that using folder and files view from a UPnP server then each track would show the correct cover art for the album that it was from.

Cheers

Phil

Posted on: 11 October 2016 by Huge

Phil, I do, it does.

Posted on: 11 October 2016 by Phil Harris
Huge posted:

Phil, I do, it does.

The last time I said 'I do' it ended up costing me £100k...

What exactly does your "I do, it does" refer to?

Phil

Posted on: 11 October 2016 by james n
Phil Harris posted:
NickSeattle posted:

Embedding is the least space efficient way to handle album art.  Saving the art as folder.jpg seems to be a standard across many server apps.  Not sure if there is any advantage to Apple's apparently proprietary method, which is optimized to work well with iPods and iPhones, etc., presumably.

Nick

Hi Nick,

It might not be the most space efficient but storage space is generally not in short supply nowadays and it's quite handy to keep the tags fully populated - for example so that if you were to create a folder full of your favourite tracks from different albums and play that using folder and files view from a UPnP server then each track would show the correct cover art for the album that it was from.

Cheers

Phil

Indeed - i share my music library across a number of different playback devices and prefer the flexibility of having embedded and separate folder artwork. Nick does make a good point about efficient use of space though which on some of the portable players may be more of an issue. 

James

 

Posted on: 11 October 2016 by Huge
Phil Harris posted:
Huge posted:

Phil, I do, it does.

The last time I said 'I do' it ended up costing me £100k...

What exactly does your "I do, it does" refer to?

Phil

I do: Have folder art AND art embedded in tracks

It does: Display the folder art for the album and different artwork for the tracks included from a different album.

Posted on: 11 October 2016 by Phil Harris
Huge posted:
Phil Harris posted:
Huge posted:

Phil, I do, it does.

The last time I said 'I do' it ended up costing me £100k...

What exactly does your "I do, it does" refer to?

Phil

I do: Have folder art AND art embedded in tracks

It does: Display the folder art for the album and different artwork for the tracks included from a different album.

Ahhhh...

Phil