Primare R32 Phono Stage

Posted by: nicnaim on 16 October 2016

I've been feeling for a while that I could be getting more out of my vinyl replay and thought that the little Music Fidelity X-LP that I have been using could be holding things back.  Having spoken to my dealer a while ago, he suggested tying the Primare R32, which was not a make I had ever heard of.  

As I happened to be passing the shop the other day I popped in to get some more inner sleeves for stuff that I have been cleaning with the RCM.  I asked again about the Primare and ended up bringing one home with me for a trial.  It took a few days to warm up and initially I was not too sure I liked what it was doing .  Sounded bright and too fast if that makes any sense, but it has really grown on me since with record after record getting spun.  Just wondered if any of you guys are using one of these and what your thoughts were.  Seems pretty good value and a one box plug and play option.  Any advice regarding the more obvious Linn or Naim equivalent kit or any other makes for that matter?

Regards

Nic

Posted on: 20 October 2016 by nicnaim
k90tour2 posted:
nicnaim posted:
k90tour2 posted:

I have a Leema Agena.  Brilliant, detailed but not too bright and can be configured to suit.  Quiet expensive.  I bought mine used for about £1500.

You did well there on the headline price!  £2k discount.  Which system are you using it with?  Not in your profile.  What does it bring to the party?

Bought from a nice chap on the Fishy Forum.  It's currently hooked up to an Audio Research Reference 3 and Reference 75 Poweramp.  Just got the Ref 3 so I don't know yet.  Previously I was using an Audio Research SP20 as a preamp with the intention of streamlining the kit as the SP20 has both a phono and a headphone amp.  It was amazing on digital but I found I was listening to less and less vinyl.  I hooked up the Leema and instantly the body of the music that I was missing was restored.  I think the SP20 is cartridge fussy.  Loads of detail but thin with my Audio Technica OC9iii catridge.  The Leema + SP20 line input into Reference 75 was the best thing I've ever heard. There are lots of phono stages I could try but I think the Leema has enough potential for the time being.  Maybe an Audio Research Ref2 phono stage one day.  To be honest, I don't have a track record with these things, bit I think I know a good sound when I hear it, especially as I've has the SP20, and a 52/135 before that.

k90tor2,

All sounds good.  The most obvious benefit being that you are enjoying your vinyl.  Thanks for your feedback.

Regards

Nic

Posted on: 21 October 2016 by Christopher_M
nicnaim posted:

Noted.  All points well made.  More to ponder.

Never mind pondering. Get over to the Lingo3 dealer and ask for a Kore dem :-)

C.

Posted on: 24 October 2016 by Christopher_M

What's the Aria latest?

C.

Posted on: 16 November 2016 by nicnaim

Ok gents, some feedback.  After extended demos of the Primare, Aria, Stageline, and Cyrus Signature, I eventually ordered the Primare.

My thoughts individually were:

Primare - Took a while to come on song, but really got my feet tapping when it did.  Built like a brick outhouse and no nonsense.  Mitrovitch rather than Gayle in football terms.

Aria - Sounded good straight out of the box, nice sound, but ultimately  a bit too polite.

Stageline - No real improvement over the XLP although not heard with separate power supply, just fed from 52.

Cyrus Signature - Really like what this did with some musical styles particularly vocals and acoustic instruments, but I was less impressed with the more full on rock/jazz stuff.  Seemed to lack a bit of grunt and muscle in the bass area.  I'm told I could probably get around this by adjusting the capacitance and resistance settings for individual records, but that seem way too much of a faff.  Sorely tempted by it, but ultimately I did not feel it was worth the extra £400 given the things that I thought let it down.

Time will tell if I have made the right choice, and who knows what will come further down the line.  Prefix/Supercap was not something I was able to listen as not readily available, and Uphorik/Superline/Ulrika/Radikal/Kore/New arm etc will just have to wait until a few more beer tokens have been saved.  

Thanks for all your input.

Regards

Nic

Posted on: 16 November 2016 by Foot tapper

Good for you Nic, enjoy your renewed vinyl collection through the Primare!

Best regards, FT

Posted on: 16 November 2016 by Adam Zielinski

Nic - glad you made a choice which is right for you! Enjoy.