Isotek Full System Enhancer CD

I have similar from another supplier.  I thought it had similar effect to that you describe but others discount it as stuff and nonsense!

Regards,

Lindsay

I use the TQ disc. It works for me and my system.

Does it work if you rip it?

Yes it will. 

"The disc can also demagnetise audio and audio-visual components."

I wonder just how excited Trading Standards could get over that claim.

Is that a claim made by isotek? 

Mine, even makes my coffee taste better, just saying 

wenger2015 posted:

Mine, even makes my coffee taste better.........

Inkier black?

Purifies the whole house through the mains, even makes you clock-radio sound HiFi and speeds up your computer, as well as improving the coffee.
 -  Might even help your neighbours system!  ......  

However, for a set of speakers, an appropriately designed exercise signal can shorten the time taken for the suspensions to 'loosen up'.  I think my Spendors should be loosened up by now though.

Finkfan posted:

Is that a claim made by isotek? 

yes on their website. 

jon honeyball posted:

Finkfan posted:

Is that a claim made by isotek? 

yes on their website. 

I had thought they were a reasonably reputable company.  

If they dropped the demagnetisation and 'Industry Standard' claims and emphasised the aspect of bedding in speakers, then I could support their claims...    Othewise 

I have no problem with the concept of vibration bedding in a speaker surround etc. Or even with the concept of a session before listening (with you out the room of course!) to put some warmth into the power amps and into the voicecoils of the drivers.  

But much more than that, and I'm afraid its incumbent on the vendor to back up the claims -- or to have the honesty and integrity to say "we have no idea how this works, but we have found, to our ears, that it does"

I well remember JV saying he had no real idea why undoing the ring on a DIN plug was a good idea, but it was clear to him that it worked. (note this was some 25 years ago and should be read in that context) 

The cd has helped with cable burn in too.

Heading in to Peter Belt territory

I actually have some respect for Peter Belt. One of his approaches is that there are two things in the system which can change how the music sounds - the equipment and the person.

You can get improvements by tweaking the system, and also improvements by tweaking the person. Glass of wine anyone? 

Nordost have a page dedicated to burn in, it's very interesting. They apply this technique to their cables and interconnects and at $USD25K per cable for their Odin, they have it figured out. By the way, who is Peter Belt?

The Strat (Fender) posted:

wenger2015 posted:

Mine, even makes my coffee taste better.........

Inkier black?

Yes, a deeper, creamy, inkier blackness, almost an expresso blackness ....truly amazing.... 

Re Mr Belt -- a great way of making someone happy is to get them to spend money. I see from his website that Mr Belt is now selling plastic paper clips at 10-15 pounds each. And a safety pin at 20 pounds. 

Heck, if he can make a business from this then who am I to tell him he is wrong? 

I shall shortly be in my local pub, where I shall be enjoying a large Morphic Link Paper Clip.

I'm sorry, I mean gin'n'tonic.

jon honeyball posted:

Re Mr Belt -- a great way of making someone happy is to get them to spend money. I see from his website that Mr Belt is now selling plastic paper clips at 10-15 pounds each. And a safety pin at 20 pounds. 

Heck, if he can make a business from this then who am I to tell him he is wrong? 

I shall shortly be in my local pub, where I shall be enjoying a large Morphic Link Paper Clip.

I'm sorry, I mean gin'n'tonic.

The man is a genius

bluedog posted:

jon honeyball posted:

Re Mr Belt -- a great way of making someone happy is to get them to spend money. I see from his website that Mr Belt is now selling plastic paper clips at 10-15 pounds each. And a safety pin at 20 pounds. 

Heck, if he can make a business from this then who am I to tell him he is wrong? 

I shall shortly be in my local pub, where I shall be enjoying a large Morphic Link Paper Clip.

I'm sorry, I mean gin'n'tonic.

The man is a genius

 

I never actually went to the trouble of auditioning any of his "treatments"; but based only on my prejudices it was when Jimmy Hughes embraced the world of Belt that I finally decided he was slightly bonkers, having given him the benefit of the doubt over the use of speakers facing the wall

I tried some of his stuff years ago, and couldnt hear anything.

Its easy to claim the man is off his trolley. I think thats quite unfair. I met him at least once, and I was very sure that he was sincere in his beliefs. 

At the end of the day, whats the difference between a treated paper clip and taking 6 months to run in your speaker cable? There's no technology that I know of that can measure either of these things. So why is one sensible and the other completely hatstand? 

Thats my thought for the day... 

jon honeyball posted:

Re Mr Belt -- a great way of making someone happy is to get them to spend money. I see from his website that Mr Belt is now selling plastic paper clips at 10-15 pounds each. And a safety pin at 20 pounds. 

Heck, if he can make a business from this then who am I to tell him he is wrong? 

I shall shortly be in my local pub, where I shall be enjoying a large Morphic Link Paper Clip.

I'm sorry, I mean gin'n'tonic.

Apparently if you sit on a cushion with one of his pins in it you'll enjoy your music more....Or you may just feel a p***k! 

Looked up the Nordost page...

"Nordost’s System Set-Up & Tuning Disc, which provides a track specifically designed to produces a range of tones that stress the cables".
Really?
The only way I know to stress a cable is to exceed its designed mechanical limits, voltage, current or temperature rating; and none of these practices would I recommend at all!
Furthermore this is a disk for playback so if my HiFi system was capable of stressing its cable I'd now be getting very worried as the system's currently playing and I don't want an electrical fire in my living room.

"By using extremely wide bandwidth signal as well as a range of both ultra-low and high frequency sweeps, the Vidar stresses the conductors, neutralizes charges, improves the way that signals pass through metal and  ultrasonically conditions the surface of the conductors. It is these changes in both the conductor and insulation material that refines performance in audio cables."
How?  That's not an explanation, that's merely an unsupported assertion.  Again stressing the conductors can only be achieved mechanically or by excess current.

"If cables are left unused for a prolonged period of time they become stagnant. And even through everyday cable use, electrical equipment experiences current leakage, imparting a charge onto your cables."
How?  That's not an explanation, that's merely an unsupported assertion.   "Imparting a charge" requires energy transfer, the exact opposite of stagnation - the claim they make is an oxymoron.

These outrageous obviously flawed "scientific" explanations are doing a great disservice to our hobby.

Don't know who Peter Belt is Aussiesteve ????   I'm not sure how you've made it so far into audio without him.    Worth a www search to educate yourself & gasp in wonderment at the genius.  Its against forum rules to post www links,  so I've copy/pasted the following from his www -  If you have a vase of flowers or a pot in a plant pot in the listening room, stand the vase or the plant pot on a plain piece of BLUE paper. Listen to some music for a short time, then remove the piece of Blue paper and see if you can listen to the same music with the same pleasure – without the piece of Blue paper in position.    

I have taken this theory & over the years spent in my secure accommodation have discovered that subtle variations in the BLUE colour spectrum work best to suit the music genre being listened to.    I have published this research with a list of RAL standards colour chart.  I can send you a copy free of charge,  mail me your address & 500AUD to cover postage ........   

Better still send the full amount for an all expenses paid holiday in Aus for Mike-B and Mrs Mike -B, plus the lawyer's fees to get him out of the secure accommodation; and he'll deliver the results of his research himself.