"This is the Naim Audio forum - we cannot sanction discussion of modifications to internal components of Naim equipment and this also extends, at the Moderators' discretion, to products from other manufacturers.
Modification extends to the use of 3rd party or home-made power supplies and any cabling that carries DC power between Naim equipment."
1st Party = Naim
2nd Party = ?
3rd Party = Well known manufactures that produce power supplies for Naim preamps.
What is an example of 2nd Party?
Snaic cables handles power and signal.
Is the power Alternating or Direct current?
Not an Engineer, excuse me for the simplistic questions.
In other words, are we allowed to discuss Chord Snakes/Snaics, which they manufacture specifically for Naim?
Got checked on Third parties, just wanted to be clear, so I won't make that mistake again.
I enjoy the Forum, and the shared experiences of members, that can be beneficial, to say the least.
Just want to abide by the rules!
Allante93!
Posted on: 31 October 2016 by Huge
1st party is the active person i.e. the person writing or the purchaser (but could also be Naim if the post is written by someone representing Naim or the Naim forum). This is a short form of "the party of the first part".
2nd party is Naim (but could be a forum member if the post is written by someone representing Naim or the Naim forum). This is a short form of "the party of the second part".
3rd party is anyone else.
Posted on: 31 October 2016 by ChrisSU
In this context, there is no first or second party, just Naim, and everyone else.
Posted on: 31 October 2016 by Huge
There is positively NO discussion about non-Naim power solutions - this includes SNAICs as they carry the DC power for the pre-amps.
The only possible exception for a SNAIC may be discussion of the interconnect between a NAC-N x72 and a power amp as, although that's a SNAIC, there's no DC power connection involved (the 24v is connected at the power amp end, but not connected at the NAC-N end).
I haven't asked Richard about this yet, and won't discuss until clarification is given, and then only if it's permitted.
Posted on: 31 October 2016 by Christopher_M
In other words, are we allowed to discuss Chord Snakes/Snaics, which they manufacture specifically for Naim?
Richard has advised me on this already - no you can't and I can quite understand why.
And a couple of days ago on Allante93's 'CDX2 heading to AV Options' thread, Richard wrote:
"Stick with the legitimate Naim SNAIC please. Discussion of any 3rd party "SNAICs" is outside of forum AUP and hence not allowed."
C.
Posted on: 31 October 2016 by Allante93
In other words, are we allowed to discuss Chord Snakes/Snaics, which they manufacture specifically for Naim?
Richard has advised me on this already - no you can't and I can quite understand why.
And a couple of days ago on Allante93's 'CDX2 heading to AV Options' thread, Richard wrote:
"Stick with the legitimate Naim SNAIC please. Discussion of any 3rd party "SNAICs" is outside of forum AUP and hence not allowed."
C.
This is True Chris, I of course, I took your Advice and Richards Advice, to get the original Naim Snaic Repaired to standard length. Which basically closed that Post out!
But was just curious, when I searched the Forum, and ran across, a post about:
Chord Super Array 'SNAIC' cables
CARABEENO ยท 5/27/15 8:27 PM
Chord Sarum SA Snaic's, you can see how one can be mislead!
That's all!
Just want to be clear! No big thing, I just don't want to break the rules.
Everyone Enjoy the Why, The Music!
Allante93!
Posted on: 31 October 2016 by Richard Dane
Allante, while I have known the folks at Chord for a number of years, have used (and still use) their cables in certain situations, and have no doubt that the quality of their cabling is such that any danger either to the user or the equipment is probably minimal, the same does not go for certain other cable suppliers and assemblers. Indeed, there are some that, at first glance, look alarmingly like a genuine Naim SNAIC and could easily take in or fool the uninitiated or unwary. Invariably the sonic performance of the equipment is impaired when using these "fake SNAICs" and, as Naim's service department can attest, the construction is poor which gives rise to all kinds of problems, usually blamed on kit elsewhere within the system. And, in the worst case scenario damage can occur to connected equipment. That's infuriating because it wastes everyones time, and for the unwitting new owner it can jaundice their view of Naim kit, when in fact the issues are all down to a poor non-standard lead. As such, while I have in the past given a bit of leeway to Chord when they launched their Sarum range etc.., it's an impossible area to police case by case, so I have decided that a blanket ban is the only practical solution.
Posted on: 31 October 2016 by Allante93
The quote is perfectly clear. It is fine to discuss cables that do not carry DC power. So in the case of a 272 there has been plenty of discussion about the din to XLR lead made by Witch Hat.
Yes HH, it sounds logical to me, even though, I'm not an Engineer!
Chord Music, Sarum SA, Signature TA, and Witch Hat and any source Interconnect is ok, because it's carrying signal only!
And Snaics, as I just learned are carrying DC power to the 552, 252, 282, 202, etc...and could be damaging, hence Naim doesn't even warrant discussion of these Snakes, one could get Snake bitten, if you know what I mean!
Allante93!
Posted on: 31 October 2016 by Allante93
Wow Richard, we were typing at the same time, and we are on the same page!
Thanks Again! Naim Snaic is being repaired this moment and if you like you can close my Post on Cdx2 going to AVoptions!
