Asset in the cloud
Posted by: likesmusic on 23 July 2011
Anyone googled "cloud upnp" recently? 
Seemingly it is "highly likely" that Naim "will evolve to UPnP in the cloud". 
Perhaps mr spoon has beefed up his UnitiServe.
Clearly the world of audio is evolving....and more rapidly than before.
The web site is a bit vague. I wonder how hard it will be to get music into and out of the cloud? I doubt they will be able to pull off an iCloud matching service.
But as a backup service, this could be very useful. If my NAS box dies, I could simply point my NDX to the cloud UPnP server, and continue listening to my music. Even if there are QoS issues (which I am sure there will be!), I would only have to bear with them for the period of time it takes to get my new NAS built.
Am thinking it will still be best to have a local backup (with a better RTO), but the UPnP Cloud could be a secondary backup (one of last resort).
I wonder what it will cost, and what the pricing model will be. Amount stored? Bandwidth used?
Very interesting stuff....lots to think about here.
Hook
From what I've read elsewhere, there's a proposition that storage only will be free - you pay to get it back.
my isp sounds better than your isp .. fwiw i'm not sure why cloud systems can't work for audiophiles right now .. why should an ndx care where an ethernet packet came from?
my isp sounds better than your isp .. fwiw i'm not sure why cloud systems can't work for audiophiles right now .. why should an ndx care where an ethernet packet came from?
It seems to be more about getting the packet "on time" (see Aleg's post in the other thread for a good analogy).
Obviously, a UPnP cloud server will need more hops to get to an NDX.
Hook
as long as you have a relatively modest bandwidth internet connection i can't see why there would be a problem getting a packet in time
- and I notice that Virgin have just announced trials of 1.5gbps cable broadband in London, at which rate a red book cd is but a moment or twos bandwidth.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tec...cable-broadband.html
Anyone remember telex?
Struggle to see the point though
Struggle to see the point though
One point (for me) would be high resolution streaming of live music.. the Berlin Phil are already doing it low res - it would just be wonderful to listen to live music from all over the planet
I wonder how much the marketeer spin doctors are behind the 1.5 Gbps cable speed. Assuming that was for TCP/IP and not DVB, which was the thrust of the story comparing to ASDL broadband, then size and power (and cooling) required for an edge router and firewall using current products means it will be costly to buy, costly to run and because of the amount of heat generated have noisy fans. Where are people going to put it? In the garage ? How many East End homes have garages, or perhaps use It to replace the gas powered central heating holier...
It reminds me of mid nineties when I was involved with the first ADSL trials in East Anglia and the ADSL modems were so noisy and generated so much heat that they need to be put in the trialists garages. From memory they were just over 2Mbps for streaming video on demand.
But surely streaming redbook cd would be realistic for many people nowadays? After all you can stream it about your house over a crummy wireless network.
Which would be as useful as 24/7 Dominoes Pizza - and cost about the same.
Tog
Simon
Which would be as useful as 24/7 Dominoes Pizza - and cost about the same.
Tog
Dominoes pizza? Not for me. But live from the Met, La Fenice, the Concergebouw .. Ronnie Scott's, the Village Vanguard .. I'll have a slice of that please.
(there's no guarantees about Qos at a concert either)
Simon
.. the tour de france has been streaming happily to my laptop at 1.8Mbps all afternoon - the future might be here sooner than you think - and what a man Mark Cavendish is.
(self evidently) true that
As I said - nice idea - but not yet and not with Asset Cloud.
Tog
think of it as an evolutionary thing .. as it stands the offer is for free backup, which is hard to refuse .. if that evolves into a cloud server even nicer. Real time moderately decent def movie streaming is a reality already, i doubt audio only is that difficult. time will tell.