Recommended turntable to use with NAC 272

Are you thinking new or pre-loved? 

And is the £400 to include a phono preamp?

Either way Rega.   You will need to think about a phono stage as well. 

Regards,

Lindsay

Another vote for Rega

£400 all in, used or new. What do i need to consider for the phono stage?

I've got a Pro-ject Debut Carbon USB which cost £399 including a built in phono stage. I bought it so I can rip vinyl to FLAC but it sounds good simply playing into my SU.

Project Debut Carbon: beware of the engine noise.

Ardbeg10y posted:

Project Debut Carbon: beware of the engine noise.

Mine doesn't make any real noise. However, it does have a fairly nasty looking cheap power supply (on the mains plug with a low voltage lead) so I've got that on a separate socket with a filter.

Another vote for Rega if you can afford it once you've considered the cost of cartridge and phono stage too. The RP3 is a seriously good player, but I forget its price.

I've just checked and the RP3 would stretch your budget a long way, but the RP2 may still fall with your budget.

What am i looking at for the phono stage, i was hoping to plug it into the N272.

PeterJ posted:

Ardbeg10y posted:

Project Debut Carbon: beware of the engine noise.

Mine doesn't make any real noise. However, it does have a fairly nasty looking cheap power supply (on the mains plug with a low voltage lead) so I've got that on a separate socket with a filter.

My engine is making much noise and I expect indeed that it is related to the mains + power supply. Did you also replace the power supply?

Rega! for cart, turntable and phono section. Buy second hand to move further up the ladder.

ARDBEG10Y,

I don't know if this is permitted, but I took a look at the Pro-ject Debut Carbon (out of curiosity) and on Amazon saw a few reviews complaining about the hum problem but also one, in English, suggesting a very effective way to eliminate it. Hope it can sort it.

M

My vote is for a used Rega Planar 3 with the RB300 arm (say about £275 for a good one) then the rest on a used phono stage ..maybe a pro-ject ...but don't buy a turntable from them ...please

Massimo Bertola posted:

ARDBEG10Y,

I don't know if this is permitted, but I took a look at the Pro-ject Debut Carbon (out of curiosity) and on Amazon saw a few reviews complaining about the hum problem but also one, in English, suggesting a very effective way to eliminate it. Hope it can sort it.

M

Its like pulling a dead horse. There is a guy on yt who took his saw and cut out the quarter having the engine and made the hum disappear this way.

But I learned a lot from it.

E.g. how to distinct ground loops from engine noise, The influence of vibrations on sound quality, why din connections are so useful. Most important: never trust WHF. Never.

Given all I learned, I don't know if I'm going to send back the TT. It's quite hate / love. On low volume listening, the engine noise is hardly audible and I do see that if the engine noise is not there, potentially it is a good TT.

If I had to choose again, I would go for a Rega and a Stageline to avoid groundloops. Stageline powered from the SN1.

Downside of this: it's double the price.

I don't know the TT in question; I read a review, of a guy who seems to have solved the engine noise issue without too much hassle. It seemed just a matter of inserting some neoprene gaskets somewhere, that is why I suggested reading the review. Good luck with your one. M

Monkadill posted:

£400 all in, used or new. What do i need to consider for the phono stage?

systemdek ..

Monkadill posted:

As the title suggest, the budget is £400.

Sorry to say, but you paid more than 4000 for a preamp and want to pay 400 for a tt, tonearm, cart and phonostage? I think that is not possible. Christoph 

Offcourse it is possible

Get the best planar your cash can buy

Ditto phonostage

christoph posted:

Monkadill posted:

As the title suggest, the budget is £400.

Sorry to say, but you paid more than 4000 for a preamp and want to pay 400 for a tt, tonearm, cart and phonostage? I think that is not possible. Christoph 

I don't see anything wrong with it - it depends on your listening habits.  I listen almost exclusively to digital content, but have a number of records I still like to play every now and then.  And I want to be able to play any new vinyl material I might pick up.  As such, it's not worthwhile to go all out on a vinyl source, but it's nice to have something comparatively cheap which still allows me to play vinyl when I do want to.

If the OP's primary source was vinyl then yes, it'd be a bit daft.  But to maintain just a half decent legacy capability, it makes perfect sense to me.

As Garry suggested above, if £400 all-in is your maximum budget then I reckon a nice secondhand Systemdek XII with either a Rega/Moth or Linn Basik Plus arm would be among the shortlist.  They're not too hard to find, still reasonably well supported, and sound great, with enough left over for a phono stage and cartridge.  In some respects the Systemdek is more capable than the Rega.  

Coincidentally, I've just spent £400 on a record player (yes, another one).  It's a piece of Japanese space-age tech from the late '70s and a deck I've been itching to get hold of and try for many years. It even came with a nice Supex cart onboard.  When I get a chance I'll post a picture (on a different thread - apologies to the OP)...

christoph posted:

 

Sorry to say, but you paid more than 4000 for a preamp and want to pay 400 for a tt, tonearm, cart and phonostage? I think that is not possible. Christoph 

It is possible and sensible if vinyl is not your main source. My main source is FLAC. I got the Pro-ject Debut Carbon USB originally so I could digitise the few vinyl albums I had which weren't on CD or Hi Res downloads. To be honest I haven't bothered ripping them yet and just play them occasionally.

+1 to Richard's recommendation of the Systemdek. I still regularly use my IIX 900 and it really is a very capable turntable with the Moth Rega OEM RB250 arm. It is also upgradable (the Heed power supply is a v good upgrade) if you decide that you want more from your vinyl replay.

christoph posted:

Monkadill posted:

As the title suggest, the budget is £400.

Sorry to say, but you paid more than 4000 for a preamp and want to pay 400 for a tt, tonearm, cart and phonostage? I think that is not possible. Christoph 

+1

Richard Dane posted:

Coincidentally, I've just spent £400 on a record player (yes, another one).  It's a piece of Japanese space-age tech from the late '70s and a deck I've been itching to get hold of and try for many years. It even came with a nice Supex cart onboard.  When I get a chance I'll post a picture (on a different thread - apologies to the OP)...

Humm. That sounds exciting. Give us a clue, Richard. A nice 1970's Weltron or similar ?