Naim Unitiqute 2 VS Uniti Atom?

Posted by: blownaway on 14 November 2016

I was just about to pick up a new Unitiqute 2 when lowen behold the new Uniti line was released. Now I find that I can get a mint UQ2 for HALF the price of the Uniti Atom.  I'm debating if its really worth the extra $ for the latest and greatest. You option will help me decide. 

This is for music in our kitchen with linn Tukan speakers mounted near our ceiling.

Yes the design of the atom is cool and the led is great but don't really care since this kit goes inside a cabinet hidden from view.

i don't need apple air or goggle cast, only need UPnP funtionality with a ethernet connection.

Yes, I imagine the Atom has an improved dac but the UQ2 has a great dac.

i can buy two UQ2's for the price of an Atom.

Review of UQ2 have been favorable. Do you think the Atom will sound MUCH better or is this a case of only some sonic improvements but mostly design and greater functionality/feature set.

thanks

Posted on: 03 December 2016 by b_lund
b_lund posted:
Hungryhalibut posted:

I've just been listening to an Atom and it's just brilliant - miles better than I recall the Qute being. It's capable of massive volume with complete control and sounds lovely,,....

And before anyone asks what I thought of the speakers - very large and very bright.

 

So your yelling out an opinion based on speakers you never heard or like

Posted on: 03 December 2016 by b_lund
Crabby posted:
Hungryhalibut posted:
Crabby posted:
Hungryhalibut posted:

It's not something I'd suggest -when I had twenty23s I used a Superuniti, which is a far better match.

Thr Atom is good but that doesn't mean  that common sense in system building goes out the window. You don't use a £3,000 speaker on the end of a £1,750 all in one. 

You are most probably right but Atom did well with £6k focal speakers. Some rules apply indeed but depend on speakers sensitivity.

can you please advise what speaker cable you use. Considering tellurium black or ultra blue. Chord clearway potentially. 

I have to test myself but interested to know what people use (outside naim own speaker cable) 

thanks in advance 

I use SuperLumina. 

Too expensive for me. 

Any other good options a bit cheaper?

Good we all 

Get some cable talk, linn k20, or Naim a4 or a5

Maybe some chord rumour or odyssey

 

 

 

Posted on: 03 December 2016 by Crabby
b_lund posted:
b_lund posted:
Hungryhalibut posted:

I've just been listening to an Atom and it's just brilliant - miles better than I recall the Qute being. It's capable of massive volume with complete control and sounds lovely,,....

And before anyone asks what I thought of the speakers - very large and very bright.

 

So your yelling out an opinion based on speakers you never heard or like

Don't think anything wrong with that 

from what I see, he has more than enough exposure to hifi and he is certainly not a rookie 

even if he didn't listen to the  speakers (which happen to be expensive high end) , someone with experience can recognise a good amp when he hears it

i am not a fan boy (yet :-) but find that encouraging 

just annoyed that we don't have more feedback...patience patience 

Posted on: 03 December 2016 by Yetizone

Agree with your sentiment there Crabby - Patience required! I have to agree that I’m in that same camp as I’m very eager to hear and also compare the Atom to the ‘Qute2 (and explore the new app), but it looks increasingly like I won’t get chance now until the New Year. Hey ho

Posted on: 03 December 2016 by hungryhalibut
b_lund posted:
b_lund posted:
Hungryhalibut posted:

I've just been listening to an Atom and it's just brilliant - miles better than I recall the Qute being. It's capable of massive volume with complete control and sounds lovely,,....

And before anyone asks what I thought of the speakers - very large and very bright.

 

So your yelling out an opinion based on speakers you never heard or like

I thought you'd got over slagging off everything I write, but it seems not. If you had actually read my whole post before selectively quoting parts of it you will have read that when I heard the Atom it was used with the Sopra 1. So I don't understand how you can suggest that I have never heard the speakers. Nor have I ever said that I don't like them. It would be impossible to assess their true capabilities on the end of an Atom. But hearing the Atom with very good speakers was enough for me to assess its abilities. 

And I'm not going to use a stupid smiley face, even though it's your post rather than mine that deserves one. 

Posted on: 03 December 2016 by b_lund

I'm not slagging something or everything, that would be impossible as you seem to be living 24/7 on forum, your choice, your need, your behavior 

I did however read somewhere, in your endless promotion of your own gear, that you disliked Focal speakers hence I thought it quite stupid to make that firm statement with no real reservations.

Never mind, its really not that important, don't look at it as slagging

Posted on: 21 December 2016 by blownaway

Well, Christmas came early for our home.  Our Christmas gift to each other arrived several weeks ago & finally our new (used) UQ2 was installed in our Kitchen last week.  My wife & I are enjoying this so much.  With all of our holiday cooking, it couldn't have come at a better time.  Set up beautifully with our existing UPnP server.  It's so nice to have the convenience of choosing music on the fly on our iPad or phone.  This kit sounds really nice with the Linn Tukans. To my ears better than the Linn MimikII, MajikI & Rega Radio we've enjoyed for many years.  Sounds punchier, a bit more dynamic.  No loss in performance, 24 bit playback, 1 box vs 3 boxes, reasonable cost, easy decision.

 

 

Posted on: 22 December 2016 by Yetizone

Hi Blown away,

Congratulations on the purchase of the UnitiQute2 - great little unit! 

Posted on: 22 December 2016 by tonym
Hungryhalibut posted:

 

I played White Stripes at over 60 on the dial and the little Atom showed no sign of strain. It really is a serious bit of kit. It makes me interested to hear the Nova if the Atom is this good. 

Having listened to first, the Atom, followed by the Uniti Star, then the Nova, with (I think) the same speakers - good though the Atom is, when you hear the comparison, particularly the jump from Star to Nova, you will be astonished!

Posted on: 22 December 2016 by Crabby
tonym posted:
Hungryhalibut posted:

 

I played White Stripes at over 60 on the dial and the little Atom showed no sign of strain. It really is a serious bit of kit. It makes me interested to hear the Nova if the Atom is this good. 

Having listened to first, the Atom, followed by the Uniti Star, then the Nova, with (I think) the same speakers - good though the Atom is, when you hear the comparison, particularly the jump from Star to Nova, you will be astonished!

Interesting. The Atom is supposed to be good. You are saying bigger brothers much better 

they have to be I guess but will appreciate what was the biggest difference for you especially Aton to star.thanks 

Posted on: 22 December 2016 by Richard Dane

I agree with Tony, the Atom was initially quite impressive - particularly in the more cosmetic areas such as top/bottom/mid, and ability to project a room filling sound with plenty of detail to the fore.  Taking into account the speakers hanging off the end of it, giving it nowhere to hide, this was more than I expected. However, by contrast the Nova really showed what more money, and hence a more capable unit brings, particularly in making sense of the music, with everyone/everything suddenly playing together rather than drawing attention to disparate parts of the recording mix.  

Posted on: 22 December 2016 by David Hendon

I thought the Nova compared with the Atom and even the Star was less HiFi and more music. But played loud through Sopra 1s is probably a tough ask for the Atom.

best

David

Posted on: 22 December 2016 by Crabby

Thank you both, thats encouraging 

the nova has to be special for that price and considering the competition at that level 

If the atom replicate and improve on what the qute2 did then I will be very happy for the price. 

I had a brief hesitation with the star but Atom is all I need. 

Posted on: 22 December 2016 by DomTomLondon

I'm also waiting for the Atom very impatiently. Sold my unitiQute (V1) a few weeks ago, and have a buyer for the NAP100. Put an order in for the Atom and was hoping to have it for the Christmas holidays, but unfortunately, (or perhaps fortunately) Naim is taking their time to get the new Uniti units out the door.

I had a quick listen to the Atom at the hi-fi show in Hammersmith a few months back, and I have no doubts that this is going to be a good upgrade from the Qute/NAP100 combo.

But the wait is killing me....

Posted on: 22 December 2016 by Crabby
DomTomLondon posted:

I'm also waiting for the Atom very impatiently. Sold my unitiQute (V1) a few weeks ago, and have a buyer for the NAP100. Put an order in for the Atom and was hoping to have it for the Christmas holidays, but unfortunately, (or perhaps fortunately) Naim is taking their time to get the new Uniti units out the door.

I had a quick listen to the Atom at the hi-fi show in Hammersmith a few months back, and I have no doubts that this is going to be a good upgrade from the Qute/NAP100 combo.

But the wait is killing me....

Ha ha ha i am not the only one 

i want naim to take their time if product is right. It kills me but sick of being a beta customer 

I am very pleased that you liked it. If you had the nap 100, that's a potent amplifier to beat. 

Hopefully a Jan launch 

Posted on: 11 January 2017 by Dreamblademyth
Richard Dane posted:

I agree with Tony, the Atom was initially quite impressive - particularly in the more cosmetic areas such as top/bottom/mid, and ability to project a room filling sound with plenty of detail to the fore.  Taking into account the speakers hanging off the end of it, giving it nowhere to hide, this was more than I expected. However, by contrast the Nova really showed what more money, and hence a more capable unit brings, particularly in making sense of the music, with everyone/everything suddenly playing together rather than drawing attention to disparate parts of the recording mix.  

Hi Richard,

I am a new member of the forum and have recently put a deposit on a Uniti Atom, for my new venture into streaming audio content. I would love to get the Nova but don't as yet have the sufficient budget. My thinking is, that in the near future, I can upgrade the Atom with a very good Power Amplifier of around £1800 budget and achieve a similar quality of sound to that of the Nova. Am I correct in thinking that the front end of the Atom and Nova are the same, hence this possibility would be realistic? 

I could, as a temporary solution, use my Musical Fidelity XP200 Power Amplifier with the Atom until I can afford the next upgrade. I currently have Monitor Audio GS20 speakers that will be used with the Atom, too.

Your thoughts on this will be appreciated, thanks, Andrew.

 

Posted on: 11 January 2017 by David Hendon

I know you are asking Richard and no doubt he will reply, but I think it would be very surprising if the only or even main difference between the Atom and the Nova was the power amplifier. If you take the example of the SuperUniti and the UnitiQute 2 which are the equivalent models in the old range, the SuperUniti has a better DAC for example and I am sure there are many such changes between Atom and Nova.

The Atom should keep its value reasonably well so I suggest it would be better to sell it and buy a Nova when you have the cash available rather than spend a similar sum adding an external amplifier to the Atom.

best

David

Posted on: 11 January 2017 by Richard Dane

As far as I know the differences between the Uniti Atom and Uniti Nova are much more extensive than just power output, as such I would be very surprised if the front ends were the same.

Posted on: 11 January 2017 by Crabby
Dreamblademyth posted:
Richard Dane posted:

I agree with Tony, the Atom was initially quite impressive - particularly in the more cosmetic areas such as top/bottom/mid, and ability to project a room filling sound with plenty of detail to the fore.  Taking into account the speakers hanging off the end of it, giving it nowhere to hide, this was more than I expected. However, by contrast the Nova really showed what more money, and hence a more capable unit brings, particularly in making sense of the music, with everyone/everything suddenly playing together rather than drawing attention to disparate parts of the recording mix.  

Hi Richard,

I am a new member of the forum and have recently put a deposit on a Uniti Atom, for my new venture into streaming audio content. I would love to get the Nova but don't as yet have the sufficient budget. My thinking is, that in the near future, I can upgrade the Atom with a very good Power Amplifier of around £1800 budget and achieve a similar quality of sound to that of the Nova. Am I correct in thinking that the front end of the Atom and Nova are the same, hence this possibility would be realistic? 

I could, as a temporary solution, use my Musical Fidelity XP200 Power Amplifier with the Atom until I can afford the next upgrade. I currently have Monitor Audio GS20 speakers that will be used with the Atom, too.

Your thoughts on this will be appreciated, thanks, Andrew.

 

I am also going for the atom. The star interest me but I don't believe it is worth the extra cash versus the atom. The qute2 and naim are known to always punch above their weight and the atom is apparently (spec and initial feedback) improving on most aspects. 

I don't play the upgrade game and like one neat solution. I recommend looking first how the Atom perform with your existing system. That will save you lots of money for perhaps other useful things (oled TV, other speakers,...)

i could add a nap later but really don't want to. The Atom should be able to drive most speakers 

Waiting for the atom big time !!!! 

Posted on: 11 January 2017 by Dreamblademyth

Hi Folks,

Thanks for the feedback. I talked to my local NAIM dealer earlier and he informed me that the Atom will not be available until at least May, now. So, knowing that, I will take a rain check on whether to save up and invest the extra for the Nova, after having a demo of both models. I love the concept of the one component solution rather than separates, as I currently have.

It seems that there is a software problem with the new models that they are still in the process of resolving. 

The wait is on!

Posted on: 11 January 2017 by b_lund
DomTomLondon posted:

I had a quick listen to the Atom at the hi-fi show in Hammersmith a few months back, and I have no doubts that this is going to be a good upgrade from the Qute/NAP100 combo.

 

So you say the new "all in one" better the UQ with seperate poweramp ?

Uhh

Posted on: 11 January 2017 by Crabby
Dreamblademyth posted:

Hi Folks,

Thanks for the feedback. I talked to my local NAIM dealer earlier and he informed me that the Atom will not be available until at least May, now. So, knowing that, I will take a rain check on whether to save up and invest the extra for the Nova, after having a demo of both models. I love the concept of the one component solution rather than separates, as I currently have.

It seems that there is a software problem with the new models that they are still in the process of resolving. 

The wait is on!

That's very poor 

this delay may make me consider the star as I may have more time to save for it

i will decide after listening to both 

just pissed off as April may is an eternity 

 

 

Posted on: 11 January 2017 by DomTomLondon

Oops, I also received word from my dealer about my Atom order. Looks like we need to wait till May. Not great as I've already sold off my Qute and NAP100... not sure how long I can stand without a decent system

Posted on: 12 January 2017 by Cato

I'm in the same boat as you DomTom - annoyed to put it mildly

Posted on: 08 February 2017 by DomTomLondon
b_lund posted:
DomTomLondon posted:

I had a quick listen to the Atom at the hi-fi show in Hammersmith a few months back, and I have no doubts that this is going to be a good upgrade from the Qute/NAP100 combo.

 

So you say the new "all in one" better the UQ with seperate poweramp ?

Uhh

I can't say for sure whether the Atom is better than the Qute+NAP100. As I only heard the Atom at the Hi-Fi show last year and it was powering a pair of £7000 Focal speakers. However it managed to drive the speakers quite easily and fill a large room very well.  So I would say it should be better or at least on par with the Qute+NAP100 combo.