Holes in the Tidal catalogue?

Every streaming service has a hole. All of them are missing ECM, it's a pity as I mainly use the services to sample new albums before buying.

You also will find that they very often have the right free albums of an artist, but not the later ones.

I would call it a chasm rather than a hole. For classical and jazz, Tidal is pretty woeful. 

No peter gabriel at all

Limited Def Leppard too ��

No King Crimson.

Found the same myself a lot of missing albums, but on the plus side plenty to listen too that I would never have bought, and have decided to keep it going after trial period expires.

There's are holes, but I use it to sample music before I buy hi-res, quick and easy listening of music and the big bonus, making playlists to suit my mood.  I don't view Tidal as a replacement for anything, just another way to bring some pretty decent quality music into my home. I think it's great and worth every penny. 

Best way to discover new albums, best way to listen one song Wonders! 

Maybe I was lucky but Tidal had over 95% of my 2000+ CD collection. 

I really rate Tidal but long for a history function like Spotify. Sometimes you hear new music you like and unless you have the app to hand to favourite it you then lose it. This particularly happens to me whilst driving. In Spotify there is (or used to be) a history function showing all the tracks you had played. 

Great for the Christmas albums! ....what?

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I've noticed a few holes in Tidal - King Crimson as mentioned, Chris Rea, some Metallica, a few others. But actually I've been far more impressed by just how much is available.  In building up playlists adding up to thousands of tracks I seem to be able to find 98% of what I am looking for from the late 50s to now.  It's been a fantastic experience, rediscovering half forgotten tracks and also finding lots of new music  

Classical music - well that's a different matter. Let's just say I hope it improves over time. 

There is Peter Gabriel, btw, I am listening to Solsbury Hill as I write this, and I have Sledgehammer on another playlist. But admittedly not his full catalogue. 

MartinCA posted:

I've noticed a few holes in Tidal - King Crimson as mentioned, Chris Rea, some Metallica, a few others. But actually I've been far more impressed by just how much is available.  In building up playlists adding up to thousands of tracks I seem to be able to find 98% of what I am looking for from the late 50s to now.  It's been a fantastic experience, rediscovering half forgotten tracks and also finding lots of new music  

Classical music - well that's a different matter. Let's just say I hope it improves over time. 

There is Peter Gabriel, btw, I am listening to Solsbury Hill as I write this, and I have Sledgehammer on another playlist. But admittedly not his full catalogue. 

İ check again no peter gabriel  only live blood album!

can it be a regional thing? Or do they punish me because i am paying about 5£ for hifi version in Turkey! 

Well, I am not yet sure about Tidal, its faults and talents; however, am listening to Leonard Cohen's last oeuvre, You Want It Darker, through Spotify, my Onkyo AV amp and my ancient Castle Harlech speakers. The reproduction is sublime which reflects the quality of the recording as well as the beauty of the music. It is salutary  to me that the recording quality means so much versus the reproductive quality of the hardware. Cohen's last effort is far from complex and perhaps offers no challenges to the equipment I currently own.

However, this is the last weekend for the current hardware as I am adding the Devialet 250 Pro next week at no small expense and am in trepidation as to what the added 'value' may or may not be. As far as I am concerned, the Onkyo and Harlechs are better and clearer than the Muso, but am steeling myself for a speaker upgrade once I see any benefits from the Devialet amp. I will have Tidal available for the implementation so will have instant comparison versus Spotify. I am so blown away with the Cohen recording am truly concerned that the heavy expenditure may not satisfy. However, I will let you know. Reason for the Devialet is partly aesthetics and partly to fit into my AV setup; it also sounds pretty good. Gulp!

[@mention:22262699346003119]   If you can't hear the difference between Spotify and Tidal with the Devialet then my name is Donald John Trump. 

Noogle posted:

[@mention:22262699346003119]   If you can't hear the difference between Spotify and Tidal with the Devialet then my name is Donald John Trump. 

Hi Donald, I was simply trying to emphasise the true worth of the recording. Am pretty sure I will get the value of the new hardware and Tidal as well. As soon as the music became more complex there is or was a deterioration in the detail of the playback. Fingers crossed, eh!

Emre posted:

MartinCA posted:

I've noticed a few holes in Tidal - King Crimson as mentioned, Chris Rea, some Metallica, a few others. But actually I've been far more impressed by just how much is available.  In building up playlists adding up to thousands of tracks I seem to be able to find 98% of what I am looking for from the late 50s to now.  It's been a fantastic experience, rediscovering half forgotten tracks and also finding lots of new music  

Classical music - well that's a different matter. Let's just say I hope it improves over time. 

There is Peter Gabriel, btw, I am listening to Solsbury Hill as I write this, and I have Sledgehammer on another playlist. But admittedly not his full catalogue. 

İ check again no peter gabriel  only live blood album!

can it be a regional thing? Or do they punish me because i am paying about 5£ for hifi version in Turkey! 

 

I checked Tidal (I suscribed being in Switzerland) and see only one album and 2 singles. In Qobuz there are about 20 albums.

Erich posted:

Emre posted:

MartinCA posted:

I've noticed a few holes in Tidal - King Crimson as mentioned, Chris Rea, some Metallica, a few others. But actually I've been far more impressed by just how much is available.  In building up playlists adding up to thousands of tracks I seem to be able to find 98% of what I am looking for from the late 50s to now.  It's been a fantastic experience, rediscovering half forgotten tracks and also finding lots of new music  

Classical music - well that's a different matter. Let's just say I hope it improves over time. 

There is Peter Gabriel, btw, I am listening to Solsbury Hill as I write this, and I have Sledgehammer on another playlist. But admittedly not his full catalogue. 

İ check again no peter gabriel  only live blood album!

can it be a regional thing? Or do they punish me because i am paying about 5£ for hifi version in Turkey! 

 

I checked Tidal (I suscribed being in Switzerland) and see only one album and 2 singles. In Qobuz there are about 20 albums.

Yep, you're right no 'So' or any other decent Gabriel stuff. And, annoyingly, no Ralph McTell 'Not Till Tomorrow', a wonderful, gentle album. Neither on Tidal or Spotify.

andarkian posted:

Noogle posted:

[@mention:22262699346003119]   If you can't hear the difference between Spotify and Tidal with the Devialet then my name is Donald John Trump. 

Hi Donald, I was simply trying to emphasise the true worth of the recording. Am pretty sure I will get the value of the new hardware and Tidal as well. As soon as the music became more complex there is or was a deterioration in the detail of the playback. Fingers crossed, eh!

I listened to it streaming Tidal and the SQ was very good. You are going to enjoy it with the D kit. 

I had Spotify and then Qobuz and Tidal. SQ 1 Tidal, 2 Qobuz, 3 Spotify. Tidal and Qobuz have holes. Qobuz is clearly better in classical. Spotify can't say because I had it for a short time and didn't like SQ.

andarkian posted:

Erich posted:

Emre posted:

MartinCA posted:

I've noticed a few holes in Tidal - King Crimson as mentioned, Chris Rea, some Metallica, a few others. But actually I've been far more impressed by just how much is available.  In building up playlists adding up to thousands of tracks I seem to be able to find 98% of what I am looking for from the late 50s to now.  It's been a fantastic experience, rediscovering half forgotten tracks and also finding lots of new music  

Classical music - well that's a different matter. Let's just say I hope it improves over time. 

There is Peter Gabriel, btw, I am listening to Solsbury Hill as I write this, and I have Sledgehammer on another playlist. But admittedly not his full catalogue. 

İ check again no peter gabriel  only live blood album!

can it be a regional thing? Or do they punish me because i am paying about 5£ for hifi version in Turkey! 

 

I checked Tidal (I suscribed being in Switzerland) and see only one album and 2 singles. In Qobuz there are about 20 albums.

Yep, you're right no 'So' or any other decent Gabriel stuff. And, annoyingly, no Ralph McTell 'Not Till Tomorrow', a wonderful, gentle album. Neither on Tidal or Spotify.

Checked Qobuz, 3  albums R McT but not "Not Till Tomorrow".

Erich posted:

Emre posted:

MartinCA posted:

I've noticed a few holes in Tidal - King Crimson as mentioned, Chris Rea, some Metallica, a few others. But actually I've been far more impressed by just how much is available.  In building up playlists adding up to thousands of tracks I seem to be able to find 98% of what I am looking for from the late 50s to now.  It's been a fantastic experience, rediscovering half forgotten tracks and also finding lots of new music  

Classical music - well that's a different matter. Let's just say I hope it improves over time. 

There is Peter Gabriel, btw, I am listening to Solsbury Hill as I write this, and I have Sledgehammer on another playlist. But admittedly not his full catalogue. 

İ check again no peter gabriel  only live blood album!

can it be a regional thing? Or do they punish me because i am paying about 5£ for hifi version in Turkey! 

 

I checked Tidal (I suscribed being in Switzerland) and see only one album and 2 singles. In Qobuz there are about 20 albums.

No - you're right:  I was reacting to the statement that there is no Peter Gabriel,  since I was listening to one of his tracks on Tidal at the time and knew there were others.  But no 'proper' albums.  I particularly liked his first album and am sorry it isn't there.

More broadly, in pulling together my play lists I am searching specific stand-out tracks, which, like Solsbury Hill, I may find on compilations.  This may be giving me a distorted impression of how much is available if I am not noticing that the original albums are not there. 

I hope the holes in the catalogue do get filled sooner or later, and I guess we have to give them a bit of time to negotiate al the deals they need.  But overall I'm still very happy with everything I can find. 

Other than the holes, I also noticed a rather weird issue of some albums started going missing. This is not new and happened in a period over a year. I can name two albums right away. There should be more but cannot remember now. 

Tales of Us-Goldfrapp and It’s Nearly Tomorrow-Craig Armstrong. They were once available but now gone

I'm using Tidal and Deezer Elite in Switzerland. Deezer normally has much better coverage, but in the case of Peter Gabriel it's almost identical to Tidal My guess is that His management/label have only made a limited selection available in this market. 

[@mention:23107822496257535] like Netflix/Amazon it's normal that some material comes and goes depending on the contractual situation. It's just part of the deal with media streaming these days.

Interesting ..my friend shares his 'best' collection as a spotify playlist which he regularly updates and is currently 700 odd in num. I convert it to tidal playlist using soundiiz and its usually 80 to 90 songs short of the spotify list. 

The interesting phenomenon of digital music is you don't really own it, sometimes they disappear without a trace. Not everything available but many things you never thought of.  I had a list of 300+ Netflix movies a few years back and more than half disappeared on the list before I could see them.

Netflix is a different business model, something come in something come Out!