What can you hear

Music!!!

With some systems sounding better than others - but unless there's a significant fault like, faor example a tizziness/sibilance from a damaged tweeter, or prominent distortion etc I find it very hard to pick out what it is that makes one thing sound better than another - if that's what you're after?

Otherwise I can hear tone (and in music that is combinations and differences in multiple tones, making timbres etc), level and direction. I don't think I hear timing, though I assemble that from what I hear, and I may discern phase differences from the effect they have. 

To be honest I didn't like taking music as a subject at school. The teachers were unfortunately hopeless at connecting us youngsters with real experience.    music was a pants subject.

TOBYJUG posted:

To be honest I didn't like taking music as a subject at school. The teachers were unfortunately hopeless at connecting us youngsters with real experience.    music was a pants subject

You have just published a list which is only a thing for audiophiles.

To me, an ederly people choir which sings completely out of tune a brilliant composition of  Bach - even simple harmonies - is much more interesting than your mentioned parameters.

My mind will appreciate the western virtues as reflected in what we call 'counterpoint' and chord schemes automatically appear.

And I will be satisfied.

Haven't a clue ... but I like it

Often have trouble hearing even the 4 instruments of a quartet ... is that the 2nd fiddle or the viola ... what does a viola sound like anyway ... I can hear a trio though so obviously 3 is my limit.

Rock bands aren't so bad as long as the bass player doesn't have his amp turned up too much (Adam?).

Orchestras just annoy me ... or rather the producer/mixers do ... they keep putting the instruments in the wrong places

All those adjectives are just words that will have totally different meanings to different people, what we need is consistency ...

I think that the forum rules should be amended so that we all have to have a listning test and we are not labelled in our posts as "member" but rather as

"cloth ears"

"doesn't deserve Naim"

"stick to mu-so"

... ... ...

"audiophile"

"dickhead"

I'm now ducking behind the sofa,

Allan

I have just decided that I hate Hifi. The only reason why I need to have it, is that it opens a world for me which I can't reach given my current state of life.

I want to hear the harmonies (Bach). I want to feel the Russian winter (Tchaikovsky). I want to feel the French summer (Debussy), I want to believe in America (Dvorak 9th). I need to have a glimpse of heaven (Brahms, yes, Brahms). I need to see Anger reflected (Beethoven) And so forth, and so on ...

Therefore, I unfortunately need hifi and am subject of the parameters mentioned by Toby.

Now I might get cursed by the Aggresive Audiophiles and sentenced (intentional quote of hardrock band) to get a Sony - equal to lifelong penalty - close to death.

The interplay between musicians, that timing and those notes that show they are meshed together and playing music with one another.  The breath from a singer, a slide of a finger on the string of a guitar or the pluck of a plectrum, rasp of a bow across the strings of a violin.  The emotion in a voice, teh age and experience in a singers tone, at the moment the anger in Keep on rocking in the free world. The little things that turn hifi into music and give the impression of realism, the detail that lets you sink into the music and not dwell on the base and treble 

When listening to music, I hear music - which makes me feel it, and stirs various emotions depending what it is. In my previous post I referred to hearing tones etc - I meant that in answer to the OP as a literal description of the sounds that ears physically hear, which combined together make up the sound of music. And that music can convey sadness, excitement, energy, reflection etc, depending on the piece. In normal listening I don't really notice much else, getting lost in the music although occasionally something specific might grab my attention, e.g. aside from the obvious of a solo instrument it could be something spurious like a tube train running under Kingsway hall etc, but mostly I just hear the music. I hear the rasp of the bow on the string, but unless I seek to analyse the individual sounds I hear I absorb it in the mix And don't think about it - though it tells me it is real musicians playing real instruments. And as I said before, with some systems/components it just sounds better than with others, and with too bad a system it can become almost or actually unlistenable - but only in such extreme cases can I really articulate what is different (where's the bass? What happened to the cymbals? The singer's voice is muffled. It sounds as if someone's draped a cloth over my ears. It sounds like I'm listening through a tin can, etc...

I just got surprised by a choir singing Santa Lucia songs in Stockholm. The restaurant organized something. Again, no hifi, just the real music!

I need to join a choir again ...

I can hear to just beyond 15k. Past that it's all too subjective.

Is that 15k Hz or GB pounds?

Both.