What HDD for Core?

Yes if you look on amazon it's a video hdd the 4Tb is ST4000VM000, I tried to get a bigger drive they seem to be 4B max over here.

We would be happy to sell the pile of these Seagate drives we have...

I would go for cheap and back up now that the Core has an easy way to back up and retrieve data.

IMO, go with a WD Red , an HTC or a Toshiba (they are well rated) and be ready if it fails.... These days, the failure rate is in practice not so different form brand to brand.

I use WD Red at home and in my tests/supports/shows NAS drives with no issues so far...

David Hendon posted:

I don't think there should be a SQ difference either.

But I am occasionally surprised by what I do hear nevertheless when I approach something with scepticism. (Although I don't admit that if Hungry Halibut is listening ....)

best

David

Eh?

Hungryhalibut posted:

David Hendon posted:

I don't think there should be a SQ difference either.

But I am occasionally surprised by what I do hear nevertheless when I approach something with scepticism. (Although I don't admit that if Hungry Halibut is listening ....)

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David

Eh?

What with me being an engineer, and all......

David Hendon posted:

Ian Brown posted:

Gazza posted:

If you read the seagate blurb the pipeline series trades off read speed and quick access for a lower noise performance. I had presumed this is why Naim recommended. I have had the core for a few weeks and am delighted. I have now ordered a second seagate hdd as a mirror back up to use along with a seagate usb back up. All are at 4 TB capacity.

I think noise is the main issue for me.  My problem is I don't see the Seagate Pipeline for sale here in Canada (the Barracuda is available) I can get the Samsung SSD but I'm put off by the price.  The cost for me off the Samsung SSD is roughly 4.5X the cost of the Seagate Barracuda.  

My plan is to use my Core as a source with no NAS.  I plan to plug a portable drive into the rear usb as a back-up.    

I don't have a huge library - Maybe 400 disks.  So I anticipate 1TB will be adequate for several years.  

You may not need as much as you think. I have about 300 discs ripped in WAV in my Unitiserve and it is only about 280 GB.

i believe the Seagate Pipeline is known as "Video" in some markets.

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David

Thanks for all the advice.  Obviously there are good rationales for the different approaches.

I took the plunge on a Samsung 1 TB SSD.  Based on David's comments above, the 1TB size should be a lifetime of storage for me.  That may change with downloads, but I still prefer to own the hard copy whenever possible.  The plan is to buy in inexpensive portable HDD to use as a back up.  

I haven't turned the Core on yet - It's all ready to go and looks terrific on my rack. 

Manu posted:

We would be happy to sell the pile of these Seagate drives we have...

I would go for cheap and back up now that the Core has an easy way to back up and retrieve data.

IMO, go with a WD Red , an HTC or a Toshiba (they are well rated) and be ready if it fails.... These days, the failure rate is in practice not so different form brand to brand.

I use WD Red at home and in my tests/supports/shows NAS drives with no issues so far...

 

Hi Manu,

I wouldn't specifically recommend the use of "NAS" targeted drives such as the WD "Red" series drives in the Core - let me explain why...

A WD “Red” would work perfectly well in a Core however there are settings on the WD Red drives (as with any other "NAS" oriented drive) that makes them more suited to a multi-drive mirrored / RAIDed environment than for standalone use. One of these is a setting called “TLER” – Time Limited Error Recovery - which is the amount of time that the drive will reattempt to read a block of data before giving up and declaring it as “unreadable”. In a NAS targeted drive this value is set to a short time period so that the drive aborts reading a difficult block of data quickly (knowing that the block can be read from the mirror drive or recreated from the parity drive of an array) so that the NAS itself is able to get on with servicing other data requests and doesn't stall. If a NAS targeted hard disc drive (WD Red, Seagate IronWolf etc.) is used in a single drive environment then in the event of a bad data block being encountered it will simply give up attempting to re-read that block earlier than a “desktop” targeted drive (however that doesn’t mean that the desktop drive would be able to read the block – just that it would try for longer before giving up and saying “Nahhhh – can’t read that”).

It’s like comparing a coupe against the estate version of the same car – the estate will be better suited for some tasks than the coupe and vice versa but you could use either and, on the whole, be no noticeably worse off with one over the other. (Apologies to anyone offended by automotive analogies...)

Any 2.5” or 3.5” SATA hard or solid state drive should be absolutely fine in the core (we’ve not found any that don’t work) however our main testing has been done with the Seagate Pipeline / Video 2TB hard discs or Samsung 850 EVO 512GB or 1TB drives and these are the drives that we specifically recommend.

Cheers

Phil