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Hungryhalibut posted:

Double best value...

Checked my local supermarkt tonight, they have only Cirio tomatoes, either chopped or peeled. Alternatively, they have the same product for a higher price in a carton. These 4 variations are always with basil. No option without basil unfortunately.

Bought the cans of chopped tomatoes - they are cheaper - and I love metal casings when it comes down to tomatoes or hifi.

I'll make a simple tomato-creme soup of them (the tomatoes) tomorrow.

Hungryhalibut posted:

Double best value...

Nice upgrade. 

I found the preamp in my Supernait was superior to my outgoing NAC202 but every time I've expressed this view people throw rotten tomatoes about. 

John Bailey posted:

Hungryhalibut posted:

Double best value...

Nice upgrade. 

I found the preamp in my Supernait was superior to my outgoing NAC202 but every time I've expressed this view people throw rotten tomatoes about. 

 

Pamplona is to be avoided for Supernait owners indeed.

But the SN is great.

Ardbeg10y posted:

John Bailey posted:

Hungryhalibut posted:

Double best value...

Nice upgrade. 

I found the preamp in my Supernait was superior to my outgoing NAC202 but every time I've expressed this view people throw rotten tomatoes about. 

 

Pamplona is to be avoided for Supernait owners indeed.

But the SN is great.

There has been reports that the Italian government/ mob have been burying industrial and nuclear waste in rural isolated areas of Italy. It could be worth researching into this and where preferred tinned tomatoes are grown and produced.

That may be rumoured in Italy, however in Spain there was an accident in the mid 60s when B52 bomber carrying atomic bombs crashed somewhere in Spain, in a region where tomatoes were grown. The bombs themselves had not been 'primed' so did not detonate, but the associated conventional high explosive did a good job of distributing the plutonium. When I learned of this some 20 odd years ago it came with the information that the USA was paying farmers in the affected area to grow tomatoes which were taken off them for destruction (though I suspect and certainly hope they were  actually paid simply not to grow tomatoes). With a 24,000 year half-life for plutonium I imagine the situation has not changed, unless someone has shoveled up a lot of dirt and put it in a hole somewhere.

A bit OT, so apologies.

There was a rather chilling article in one the Sunday supplements a few months back about the full extent of the illegal burning, dumping and burial of toxic chemical, biological and even radioactive waste in southern Italy. Unfortunately it would appear that most of the affected areas are also the prime agricultural lands, particularly around Naples. The article seems to imply that Nobody appears to want to face the full implications, certainly not in the north who were happy to pay reduced fees to criminals to take their industrial waste, and asked no questions. The article has certainly made me think twice about buying Italian tomatoes and tomato based products. 

As for preamps, the shoebox preamps are great value these days.

I once worked as a contractor in a certain well known nuclear facility somewhat closer to home, and I can assure you that gross negligence in the disposal of high level nuclear waste is not unique to Italy.

Gone from advice on an amp to tinned gourmet and, so far,  armageddon. I LOOOOVE this forum!

ChrisSU posted:

I once worked as a contractor in a certain well known nuclear facility somewhat closer to home, and I can assure you that gross negligence in the disposal of high level nuclear waste is not unique to Italy.

Woodward and Bernstein, The Sunday Times Insight Team, Duncan Campbell, Harold Evans, where are you at this hour?!

Chris

Christopher_M posted:

ChrisSU posted:

I once worked as a contractor in a certain well known nuclear facility somewhat closer to home, and I can assure you that gross negligence in the disposal of high level nuclear waste is not unique to Italy.

Woodward and Bernstein, The Sunday Times Insight Team, Duncan Campbell, Harold Evans, where are you at this hour?!

Chris

Outside of several very large barbed wire fences.

Fortunately, I don't like tomatoes.... 

But Pre amps very good...

Disposal of nuclear waste is a major challenge worldwide, and no doubt open to corruption because of the money involved, and risks arising from cutting corners due to cost cutting (and also speculation and conspiracy theories).

For long term storage of nuclear waste (= as near to disposal as is possible for dangerously radioactive materials) the determined way forward is "geological storage" - i.e. buried somewhere in stable geology and in such a way that nothing can leak.   UK Gov in its infinite wisdom decided that instead of being geology led, the location would be decided by 'volunteerism': and there has been just one volunteer area, West Cumbria (unsurprisingly, with the local economy heavily dependent on the nuclear industry and much of the UK's radioactive waste currently in temporary storage at Sellafield and nearby establishments).  Apparently the stable granite core of the Cumbrian mountains is not under consideration because it may be damaging to the image of the National Park up above, so instead they are thinking of burying in the less ideal strata beneath coastal strip, or even out under the Irish Sea. At least it'll be a mile or two underground, when buried, and anyway not a major tomato growing region...now: but will that be the case in tens of thousands of years when it is still highly radioactive, bearing in mind possible climatic changes and earth axis shifts and intervening land upheavals and erosion? Will our descendants, or who or whatever may then roam the earth, find that the location that used to be West Cumbria is ideal for tomato growing? 

And what will be the best vfm preamp then? I imagine none: if humankind is still around, music will be directly injected with no hifi involved, and Naim will be the supplier of tuning firmware to customise PRaT.

Surely going off-topic. If buried below the seabed, it will require some massive works unless they just dump it without any dredging works. Even that, the fishes (not tomatoes) might not be safe to be consumed anymore.

ryder. posted:

Surely going off-topic. If buried below the seabed, it will require some massive works unless they just dump it without any dredging works. Even that, the fishes (not tomatoes) might not be safe to be consumed anymore.

Possibly drill like for an oil well, but possibly more likely bore out from under land (the store will be a large repository or repositories, taking many years to fill). It would be made sufficiently deep (maybe a mile or so) so as to be beyond water migration for the forseeable(?) future. 

Innocent Bystander posted:

ryder. posted:

Surely going off-topic. If buried below the seabed, it will require some massive works unless they just dump it without any dredging works. Even that, the fishes (not tomatoes) might not be safe to be consumed anymore.

Possibly drill like for an oil well, but possibly more likely bore out from under land (the store will be a large repository or repositories, taking many years to fill). It would be made sufficiently deep (maybe a mile or so) so as to be beyond water migration for the forseeable(?) future. 

Given the location, I suspect they would use an old mineshaft, of which there are plenty under the sea off the Cumbrian coast. Chuck a bit of concrete on top, and scarper....job done!

Hmmm, time to give the OP his thread back, I think! I shall refrain from further discussion of this outside of the asylum. 

ChrisSU posted:

Hmmm, time to give the OP his thread back,

Without answering the original question, what is the best value preamp for tinned tomatoes?  

b_lund posted:

Aceone posted:

 the best vfm preamp in your opinion.

Perhaps a 72, 32.5 or 62

As these could be free hifi keeping their value until a resale is due

On the contrary, just about worst vfm must be 102/202 as these fetch nothing near original retail, vfm for new owners not vfm for original owners

Yes, although any olive or CB pre-amp could be categorized similarly: 42, 42.5, 82 etc

Karl posted:

Surely the best vfm Pre has to be the NAC 72,you can pick one up for £300-£400, it will be worth the same or more in five years and has a phono stage built in.

Cirio tinned tomatoes 4 x 400gram tins on offer at Waitrose £1.49

Karl

I have the Waitrose offered Cirio tinned chopped tomatoes and an early 72 (32.5!) Do I win a prize?

NAC 92 only because I used to own one!