Upgrade path from unitiqute

Posted by: Djef on 15 January 2017

Hi Everybody,

I know that a kind of subject that circling around but without a definite answer.

So I owned a uniqute v1 192/24 (not the 2) that feed high-res flac files via streaming to LS50.

I like the little machine and the  great sound, for the price it is perfect, specially if you buy it used.

Now I need your help to narrow my upgrade path

I would like your advice and if your been down that road please tell me what did you do.

so has suspect and I know some of them are ridiculous :

A ) add a nap 200 after PRE-amp on unitiqute

B) add a ND5 XS before analogue input on unitiqute

C) sell it and then buy DAC v1 and NAP 100

D) sell it and buy a unitiqute 2

E) add a 172XS into analogue input of uniqute as temporary mesure before buting a nap 200

F) There is no upgade path. Keep it for your second house and buy a new one.

thanks in advance to your comment

 

 

 

 

 

Posted on: 15 January 2017 by Moussa

OK I will throw something at you based on my experience. Sell your UQ and get a chord mojo with a Nait XS-2. I am very familiar with these two options. You will thank me OK that's it good night for now

Posted on: 15 January 2017 by b_lund
Djef posted:

 

Now I need your help to narrow my upgrade path

 

 

 

 

 

Your post lacks vital information its impossible to provide good advice

Posted on: 15 January 2017 by Djef

thx !

Posted on: 15 January 2017 by b_lund
Djef posted:

 

Now I need your help to narrow my upgrade path

 

 

 

 

 

Your post lacks vital information to provide any usefull advice

Posted on: 15 January 2017 by trickydickie

You do a lot worse than a used/ex demo Superuniti.  They are a great machine and very good value for money at the moment.

Posted on: 16 January 2017 by ChrisSU

I would go for option E, but maybe get the 200 first, then the 172, if you don't but them at the same time. No need for a new 200DR, a good, serviced older 200 would be fine. 

No point in getting a Unitiqute 2, it has only minor differences.

V1/100 is nice, but it's really intended for use with a computer as a source, is that what you want?


 

Posted on: 16 January 2017 by Ardbeg10y

Consider a couse Philosophy instead of an upgrade of Naim Gear. The 'Why' is the question.

Many valid reasons.

- I'm in a midlifecrisis, There needs to be something in my life which is mine and not posessed by wife / kids.

- I got a bonus, an island of porsche is too expensive, but I can afford a Naim upgrade.

- USA gets a new president on Friday, I need a nuclear free shed. I consider a Naim Statement to hide in.

- My current set lacks detail. Need more detail.

- My ballroom is too large to be filled with proper sound.

- I bought Linn Isobariks, my UQ1 Can't drive more than the tweeter / midrange. Which PowerAmp should I connect?

 

Just random examples of the potential 'Why'. All valid!

Posted on: 16 January 2017 by Yetizone

For me, I think the logical choice with be option A - this would open the door for a future 172 or 272 to work alongside the NAP200, giving a simple, capable two box system that could easily be upgraded or enjoyed as is. The Qute sold on to finance the upgrade or retained.

I have a Unitiqute2 (purchased to experiment with streaming for the first time) and have also been speculating about this very question. Option A seems logical, where in my case the NAP will become a being stepping stone upgrade to the next incarnation of Naim Pre / Streamer, be it a 172.2 or 272.2 (or whatever they will be called) with the new Uniti streaming platform. The ‘Qute2 then used as an independent unit (as intended) in a second room. 

Although, I am temporarily holding off all decisions until I actually hear the new Uniti's. That may alter my approach if there is a significant improvement in the new range, as there is a certain attractive simplicity to having a one box cure all solution, despite the obvious compromises

Posted on: 16 January 2017 by David Hendon

If you have a second house, then option F is probably the right one.

That would immediately raise a similar but not identical list of options on buying something to replace the UQ1. I agree a used Superuniti would be a good thought, but the price for buying a used one won't really fall until there are plenty of Novas out there, so six months away at least I guess.

best

David

Posted on: 16 January 2017 by alan33

I have a v1 Qute, now about 8 years old I suppose, which I kept for upstairs when I upgraded to a SuperUniti about 4 years ago I suppose. One better big box seemed like the logical upgrade path from one perfect little box, and I like(d) that decision and move very much.

I'm now anticipating upgrading SU to Nova for much the same reasons, driven by dreams of its newer streaming engine and consistent reports of even better sound. My trust is that I like what Naim do, so minor changes in what "even better" means won't impact me especially after the comparatively short A/B comparison phase. Some will wonder why I can "buy blind", but I'm not worried about that. Question will be whether to bring in an Atom given latest time horizons...

As for the original Qute (which is moved back downstairs as I attempt to sell / part exchange the SU driven by now-incorrect expectations on Feb delivery for Nova), I'm back in your boat...upgrade to Atom? Side/down grade to MuSi to up spec convenience? Stick with it as a perfectly happy bedroom system?  My grand plans have not solidified on this front. But to your original point: my path does not lead to a multi-box rack as I value the one-box simplicity and crave the next generation of hw/fw/sw Naim are about to launch for we of a streaming persuasion.

An SU is a very nice step for "more of what you love about the Qute", so that might be a good starting thought to turn over in your mind. And for sure vfm on used or ex-dem units will be high...

Regards alan 

Posted on: 16 January 2017 by Djef

Thanks, I suspected the SuperUniti was the elephant in the room

And it make sense giving the close match between the Qute and the LS50

it just mean that you buy a new machine and you sell your old machine .

Which it is much as an upgrade path !

I think my best bet is to hope, that in a couple of mouth, due the new  nova  family, a SuperUniti will become available to me, because the one with right price  are rare on the used maket.

 

Anybody used LS50 on SuperUniti ?

Posted on: 16 January 2017 by Djef

Someday ask why ?

Why would I want to change ?

Fair question.

Because to my ear, as much as the musical message is engaging, there is a lack of definition particularly in the mid-high which make me think of a  limitation at the D/A stage.

Posted on: 16 January 2017 by Djef
b_lund posted:
Djef posted:

 

Now I need your help to narrow my upgrade path

 

 

 

 

 

Your post lacks vital information its impossible to provide good advice

quote "high-res flac files via streaming to LS50"

What else ?

type of music : All , does not matter , jazz, pop, rock ,electro,  classical, ect..

Posted on: 17 January 2017 by Ardbeg10y
Djef posted:

Someday ask why ?

Why would I want to change ?

Fair question.

Because to my ear, as much as the musical message is engaging, there is a lack of definition particularly in the mid-high which make me think of a  limitation at the D/A stage.

The beauty of a single box solution like the UQ is that it is a single box :-)

I must say that I've never heared the SuperUniti but I have a feeling that you won't get much more detail or definition when you get another integrated amp like the SuperUniti, maybe just a bit. The SuperNait 2 + external Dac is another price category, but this will add the definition.

I would go for E, and save money for a poweramp later.

Posted on: 17 January 2017 by David Hendon

You should listen and decide, but the DAC in the SuperUniti is of a different class to the lesser Unitis and it does sound quite different. Better in every respect than the UQ, as you would expect from the price. I replaced a Unitilite with a SuperUniti and never regretted it.

best

David

Posted on: 17 January 2017 by DomTomLondon

I had a unitiQute+NAP100 with a pair of LS50s.  But have since sold the Naim kit to pay for the Atom, which is what I was/am hoping would be an upgrade from the original Qute V1 and NAP100 combination.

But with the huge delay of the new Unit range I have also started to look at other options. And a ex-dem Superuniti is up there on my list, or possibly a used N172 and 155. But as others have said, there arn't that many used units for sale right now. There probably will be once the new Uniti range become available, but at which time I would be better off to just get the Atom or Star.

decisions, decisions...

Posted on: 17 January 2017 by David Hendon

I suspect a used SuperUniti will be cheaper (and better SQ possibly) than a Star and certainly better SQ than an Atom by about midway through 2017.

best

David

Posted on: 17 January 2017 by Yetizone

Dom, having taken the big step to sell your 'Qute2 & NAP100 would it not be prudent to wait just a few months until the new Uniti range is available? Even though a 172 + 155 / SuperUniti are probably going to sound better than your old equipment, it could be considered a sideways move with reference to the new Uniti platform streaming tech.

Alternatively a secondhand Mu-So or Mu-so QB could perhaps be a short term Naim fix, then be utilised in another room or sold on for little or no loss.