Super Lumina guidance

The OP's question only relates to the phono - DIN lead between his Urika and 252.

It goes off topic and confusing to talk about other i/c cables, full looms, and speaker cable  

Besides, full loom + speaker cabling is so darn expensive the OP would be better off upgrading the 252 to a nice pre-owned 552 imho.

However, if happy with the 252, or budget restricted, a Chord Super Sarum Aray vs Super Lumia Phono - DIN demo would be a very good idea. It's quite possible a solitary Chord SSA may have the advantage of more synergy when used with standard Naim interconnects and NACA5.

Debs

naim_nymph posted:

...... a Chord Super Sarum Aray vs Super Lumina Phono - DIN demo would be a very good idea. 

I agree, but wonder how many people actually do the demo

Let's face it, how many dealers worldwide can do a demo of SL vs Chord on identical Urika LP12"s ?

I would guess fewer than a handful. I was fortunate enough to do the demo of the Chord  but that required a flight from Chicago to London and then a train ride to the Swain Emporium. Not sure how many others are willing to do all of this for a proper, unbiased demo ! I did want to see and hear the new Titans though .

At some point you may just have to take a leap of faith...

ATB,

Mark

I added my experience with SL to advise the OP that if he wasn't getting the vibe from the phono-DIN, maybe try SL on the DIN to XLR connection, which would connect two Naim products.  Just an alternative to his issue.

varyat posted:

Let's face it, how many dealers worldwide can do a demo of SL vs Chord on identical Urika LP12s?

That's true Mark, but doesn't that make it more remiss not to take the opportunity if you are located within a reasonable distance of a dealer who does provide that level of service?

Also, although not quite the same, you could get a good feel for the relative merits using them - perhaps the DIN/DIN versions - on a CD player or streamer on an extended home dem. That might be easier to arrange. 

well, one can't really go wrong with Superlumina, after all it is a Naim cable, optimized for your Naim kit.

analogmusic posted:

well, one can't really go wrong with Superlumina, after all it is a Naim cable, optimized for your Naim kit.

Maybe that's why it doesn't work very well if you're connecting a non-Naim source to Naim. 

Tony,
Does this imply that Superlumina is the Boris Johnson of cables?  It has a strong following at home but is perhaps less ideal as a diplomatic interface with other domains?

 Maybe more akin to the Donald Trump of cables FT!

John.

I have been running SL Phono-DIN from my Urika to 252 and now 552 for 14 months. It was engaging from the start and improved over time. So, maybe connecting a non-naim source to a Naim pre-amp does work well.

Is "engaging" good enough? 

Dave J posted:

Is "engaging" good enough? 

Now Dave, there is always room for improvement!

Music anyone. Chord!

Nice System, put together extremely well!

Linn/Naim/Chord/Kudos

Allante93!

My Super Lumina cables (I have a complete set apart from DIN to XLR for my active 500 system) all sounded like a good upgrade from the start, but now, eight months later, they sound phenomenal and I wouldn't be without them. They just make everything sound musically 'right'. Hell of a time to wait for them to come totally on song though. The DIN to XLR seemed a retrograde step when I fitted them and after four months of little improvement I sold them. I guess I should have waited longer, but even without that final touch, the system now sounds a joy.

Incidentally, after fitting the speaker cables, I did go back to the NAC5 cable after a few months just to see what it was like in comparison. Absolutely no contest!

Mike Kent posted:

  The DIN to XLR seemed a retrograde step when I fitted them and after four months of little improvement I sold them. I guess I should have waited longer, but even without that final touch, the system now sounds a joy.

Forgive me for being an old cynic, but if a bit of hi-fi kit doesn't sound pretty good from the start then it won't be any better after a few weeks. You did the right thing selling the cables. It does seem to me that, rather than the cable "running in" over months of use, what actually occurs is that people get accustomed to the sound. A question - how come these things always appear get better over time and not worse?

That's exactly what I think Ken. If you don't instantly get a big improvement  at that price give them back and look elsewhere. 

Mike Kent posted:

My Super Lumina cables (I have a COMPLETE set apart from DIN to XLR for my active 500 system) all sounded like a GOOD upgrade from the start, but now, eight months later, they sound phenomenal and I wouldn't be without them.........

Incidentally, after fitting the speaker cables, I did go back to the NAC5 cable after a few months just to see what it was like in comparison. Absolutely no contest!

GOOD & COMPLETE

He'll of a System Kent, in this expensive hobby of ours, we gotta spend our loot on something!

That's what we do!

Why not Naim, the last time I checked, Chord Music wasn't on Sale!

That takes care of GOOD, now  the Complete.

CD555--+SL---+552

Snaxo--+SL--+552

2 pair/4 lines SL speaker Cable

So the only thing missing to complete the Full Loom:

2 pair/4 lines of Din to XLR DL

I'm an Active Fan, just checking to make sure, I understand!

I'm I on point????

Allante93!

am I on point????

typo...

Allante93!

Is there a point?  

There's always a point, understanding, love, and sharing! Information wise owl!

The Full Loom, ain't cheap, if I understand the way its implemented! 

Active Fan! 

Perhaps it is my man-flu, but as Mike Kent said "The DIN to XLR seemed a retrograde step when I fitted them and after four months of little improvement I sold them" I took him to mean that before he "sold them" that he was running a Super Lumina full loom - but is not now because he sold the DIN/XLR cables.