Difficulty ripping CDs

Robert

can you see the next work tree on your PC? which programme are you using for ripping?

Unfortunately you have given too little info to be of much help in answering your question. For example, what type of computer do you have or are you using some other hardware (e.g. Unitiserve/Core) to rip your CDs. If using a computer, what ripping software are you using? Do your NAS drive disks power down after a period of inactivity?

Have you tried mapping your QNAP's multimedia folder as a network drive on your computer? This would make it easier to set up the destination folder for your ripped files. I personally rip my CDs to an internal HD on my PC for checking/editing metadata etc. prior to copying the audio files to my NAS drive and backups. 

Ditto with Sjbabbey, rip to local disk and copy to NAS. Your streamer should be mapped to NAS of course. I use dbPoweramp with no issues. 

You need to check the ripping 'Path' you have set in your ripper settings.   But maybe first find out were it is ripping to,  its gone somewhere & maybe a good idea to do something with that first.  

Also (agreeing with prev posts) - I no longer rip direct to NAS - I did this when I loaded the whole CD collection to get the job done - now, as I only rip once in while,  I changed the 'path' to rip to a folder on my PC, then I check the metadata & other stuff is OK, then upload to NAS.

A good practice is to rip on your pic or laptop and only transfer the files after checking and changing tags as needed.....

Hi everyone, thanks for these replies. I'm running Yosemite on a MacBook Pro, using dBPoweramp to rip. I will try changing the path to write to my Hard drive, and move the stuff later. I've done thousands of pop CDs (relatively easy, as the tags are mostly straightforward). Onto the Classical now, which is a nightmare. I already note four versions of Handel's name in the existing tags. Ahhh!

Robert,

I found it helpful to keep my Rock and Classical libraries totally separate. I did this because I wanted to have entirely separate browsing views for each e.g. Composer and Conductor/Orchestra views as opposed to Artist and to have separate genres such as symphony/sonata/concerto etc. for classical music. 

To do this I made sure that I had separate high level folders for Classical and Rock music within my QNAP multimedia folder and installed both Minimserver Upnp for Classical and Asset Upnp for Rock etc.

Robert Daoust posted:

Hi everyone, thanks for these replies. I'm running Yosemite on a MacBook Pro, using dBPoweramp to rip. I will try changing the path to write to my Hard drive, and move the stuff later. I've done thousands of pop CDs (relatively easy, as the tags are mostly straightforward). Onto the Classical now, which is a nightmare. I already note four versions of Handel's name in the existing tags. Ahhh!

Yes indeed -- rip to your local Mac hard drive, edit metadata, etc., and then move the files over to your nas.  Then delete from the Mac  

Having a much easier time of it, ripping to my hard drive. Does anyone know why the "Artist" name is appearing on each track, even though it doesn't appear in the ripper? Will it appear in the UPnP?

I assume you are referring to the file names, in which case it's what dbpoweramp does. What appears in the app is determined by the metadata, not the file name. 

Robert Daoust posted:

Hi everyone, thanks for these replies. I'm running Yosemite on a MacBook Pro, using dBPoweramp to rip. I will try changing the path to write to my Hard drive, and move the stuff later. I've done thousands of pop CDs (relatively easy, as the tags are mostly straightforward). Onto the Classical now, which is a nightmare. I already note four versions of Handel's name in the existing tags. Ahhh!

You are right, classical is a nightmare. Forget the default metadata. They are in most cases crap (alas, Hyperion has very good metadata!). If you are consistent and disciplinated, you will be rewarded with the pleasure of exploring your classical music collection according to different viewpoints and flexible criteria. Here is an example of the indexes I currently set for classical music:

01 - Schumann - String Quartet No. 1 in A Minor, Op. 41, No. 1 - I. Introduction - Andante espressivo - Allegro.flac:
album=Schumann | String Quartets, Op. 41 Nos. 1-3
artist=Alex Redington
artist=Jonathan Stone
artist=Simon Tandree
artist=John Myerscough
title=String Quartet No. 1 in A Minor, Op. 41, No. 1: I. Introduction: Andante espressivo - Allegro
albumartist=Doric String Quartet
tracknumber=1
form=Streichquartett
label=Chandos
incdate=2017-02-24
composer=Schumann, Robert (1810-1856)
isrc=GBLWD1108001
copyright=2011 Chandos
genre=Klassische Musik
genre=Kammermusik
work=Streichquartett Op. 41, Nr. 1 in a-Moll (1842)
work=Streichquartette Op. 41 (1842)
ensemble=Doric String Quartet

The "conductor" index is missing because this is a piece of chamber music. Notice, beside the standard indexes,  the "work" index (with multiple values), the "ensemble" index and the "form" index. The latter allows me to select, for instance, all string quartets (piano sonata, piano concert, violin concert, etc.) in my collection and then refine my choice, e.g., by composer, conductor, ensemble, etc.

By the way, as Bert Schurink pointed out, it is a good practice to rip to a local drive. Then check filenames and metadata, have a coffe, check again, listen to the rips, have a glass of wine, check again the metadata and ... if everything is fine, have another glass of wine and then commit to your servers, NASs and backup drives!

Dear NBPFThis is great, but I have at least a million classical CDs (not quite, but it seems like it). I like the meta you've set up, but all I've used so far is services/edit dBPoweramp tags. The way you've laid it out looks like what I would have put in a web page. How do I access this kind of code for a track/disc? Also, I'm playing the UPnPs with Minimserver, which is great for classical. Any other recommendations? What is Jaikoz?

Robert Daoust posted:

Dear NBPFThis is great, but I have at least a million classical CDs (not quite, but it seems like it). I like the meta you've set up, but all I've used so far is services/edit dBPoweramp tags. The way you've laid it out looks like what I would have put in a web page. How do I access this kind of code for a track/disc?

The metadata shown is just the output of "lltag -S" from the command line. lltag is a command line file tagger and renamer, please see http://home.gna.org/lltag/. A GUI-based tagging software that supports user specific indexes is ExFalso, see  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_Falso.

Robert Daoust posted:

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Also, I'm playing the UPnPs with Minimserver, which is great for classical. Any other recommendations?

No, for me MinimServer is at the moment simply the best UPnP server. For classical music it is almost mandatory: as far as I know, no other UPnP server (apart from JRiver which is more than just a UPnP server) supports user specific indexes. If you use MinimServer you should also install MinimWatch, typically on a desktop or laptop computer. The application allows you to manage all MinimServer instances running on devices connected to your network. It is very convenient, for example, when you want to force a specific MinimServer instance to rescan its music collection, e.g., after adding new albums.

Robert Daoust posted:

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What is Jaikoz?

I do not know.

Not bad NBPF, but why is composer Lastname, Firstname and artist Firstname, Lastname?  

MP3Tag is a tool where you can edit all indexes. 

likesmusic posted:

Not bad NBPF, but why is composer Lastname, Firstname and artist Firstname, Lastname?  

Well, that's just my taste, I could use another namegiving scheme, of course.

The point is that namegiving does not need to be consistent across indexes. What matters is that within an index namegiving is consistent. This is the case in my collection.

The reason why namegiving across indexes is irrelevant is because the way in which the values of the composer, artist, conductor, etc. indexes are presented to the control point can anyway be set in MinimServer.

This means that I can set MinimServer to list composers according to firstname+lastname (instead of lastname+firstname) if I fancy to do so. Same with artist, etc. MinimServer is really very flexible in this respect.

One rational for having composers by lastname, firstname and artist the other way round is perhaps that these are the schemes that I also use in my folders.

My actual files are organized in a "data" folder with subfolders with names like "Doric String Quartet", "Arild Andersen", "Chicago Symphony Orchestra, Claudio Abbado". But I also have a "composer" folder (at the same level as "data") with subfolders like "Sibelius, Jean (1865-1957)", "Bach, Carl Philipp Emanuel (1714-1788)", etc. These contain subfolders named after a composer's works which, in turn, contain subfolders named after interpreters which finally contain symbolic links to the actual data under "data". In fact, I have a few more folders containing mere symbolic links which I use for searching my collection from the command line. It's a fairly complicated system that I maintain just for fun.

What actually matters is just the metadata and these are as displayed in my original post. I use in fact a few more indexes which are not shown in the example, for instance "conductor" or "director".

Best, nbpf