Asset UpnP - annoying little issue....

Is the album and artist metadata actually in the files? 

Well, I don't know! Granted, both CDs are, I suppose, quite old and I assume that any metadata would come from the CD whch may not have been there when they are pressed? I am very new to all this, so apologies if my assumption is wrong!

The metadata is acquired from the internet, using one of the databases. Was your computer online when you ripped? I use dbpoweramp to rip and manage the files, but have not used EAC. If you right click on a file it brings up dbpoweramp for editing the data. Maybe EAC is the same. 

Victorthesecond posted:

Well, I don't know! Granted, both CDs are, I suppose, quite old and I assume that any metadata would come from the CD whch may not have been there when they are pressed? I am very new to all this, so apologies if my assumption is wrong!

A common assumption but yes, a wrong one.

There is actually very little in the way of 'data' on a CD beyond the actual audio data. There's basically what should be a unique identifier which was originally intended to allow the disc to be referenced as to what it was but which was never used correctly and a table of contents which is simply a list of the 'frame' positions to the start of each track. (The audio data on the disc is referenced as the number of "frames" of data from the start of the disc so the table of contents is just a list of up to 99 increasing numbers for the offset from the start of the disc for each track.)

There was a CD Text 'extension' to the red book spec that was intended to allow for cover art, album details, track details and even lyrics to be added but it was very rarely used even in the early days of CD and I haven't seen a CD player in years that did anything with CD Text data if it was present and I don't think I've ever seen a CD with CD Text.

Any programs that automatically tag rips generally only use the table of contents data (the unique identifier not being unique enough to identify the disc on its own) as a fingerprint to find what discs are the closest match to that being ripped and then tag it with that data.

From the paid for version of Asset you should also be able to browse by folders and files which you should be able to find your ELP rips under but yes, it does sound like your rips aren't tagged so there's nothing in the way of data for Asset to index the tracks under "Artist" and "Albums" views with - you can correct that with a tag editor.

Cheers

Phil

In the EAC top menu select Database\Get CD Information From > Remote Metadata Provider (Alt + G)

Oh, I see. Yes, it was on-line. EAC has a "freedbb engine" along with other options such as "CueTools" and "GD3" plus a 4th free option called "freedb Metadata plugin". Sadly, none of these seem to add any data to the CD name /artist name / track names. Oddly enough, Windows Media Player does all of the metadata stuff straight away, and even sets up a sub-folder (for the CD) within the artist's sub folder within the main folder I have for all my music!

I know that others on the forum have suggested that Windows Media Player offers a sort of "false" FLAC ripping, but I keep coming back to it as it seems to do the job.....

Mike

If you are going to do your own ripping - especially if you're going to use Asset UPnP as a server - then I would strongly recommend using dBpoweramp as your ripper ... you can do an awful lot with it if you get into it.

Cheers

Phil

I suggest you buy dbpoweramp. It's made by Illustrate, who make Asset, and works really well. It takes a while to get your head around all this, so don't think it's just you! 

Thanks to all.....SJB, I've done that, and the data is now visible in EAC, thank you. 

Another +++ for dBpoweramp,  its does all you want with ripping & more than you will ever need.   EAC is OK,  its does the basic's but nothing like as extensive as dBp - probably indicative of it being open source - & I found it very limited with metadata/tagging, needing to use Mp3tag (or dBp) for that.

I must admit that I also use dBpoweramp as my main ripper as it is more easily configurable if you have a set/user defined tagging regime via the DSP/Metadata options. It also includes a separate batch converter program and access to PerfectTunes for checking downloaded redbook files against the Accuraterip database.

However, EAC is useful for the odd instance where dBp is unable to ectract a secure copy of a borderline CD.