Neat motive 3 Speakers..

Posted by: ndx202- on 02 March 2017

Hello just got these amazing little speakers.Neat Motive 3 ' wondering which of the terminals on the speakers bass/treble are best to use...Using the bass ones at the moment seems to sound slightly fuller ..Best small speaker I have ever heard  . They almost disapear when listening. Been positioning them with Joan Biez playing First speakers that I have had that  DO THE RIGHT THING WITH CD /MP3 and vinyl. They seem to play anything really well ...Any comments welcomed on positioning etc... 

Thanks 

Posted on: 02 March 2017 by stuart

Glad you're enjoying the motives.  I have motive 2 and haven't noticed much difference between speaker terminals.  If you are using naca 5 make sure you get some jumper leads made out of the above. It does seem better than the brass connectors. I have mine toed in slightly and 30cm from back wall. Don't have any experience with rear ported stand mounts so I guess just experiment with positioning until it sounds right. 

Posted on: 03 March 2017 by hungryhalibut

An F connection is what you need. There's an FAQ about it. 

Posted on: 03 March 2017 by ndx202-
stuart posted:

Glad you're enjoying the motives.  I have motive 2 and haven't noticed much difference between speaker terminals.  If you are using naca 5 make sure you get some jumper leads made out of the above. It does seem better than the brass connectors. I have mine toed in slightly and 30cm from back wall. Don't have any experience with rear ported stand mounts so I guess just experiment with positioning until it sounds right. 

Yes thanks for the comments. I have found that 20  cm from a rear wall with slight toe in  and about 2.2 meters between them seems  sound optimal.

I have tuned them using some Joan Baez ' she tests most speakers I have used..They pass with flying colors as they say.

Not a single Iota of a breakup or holes in the sound stage ' they seem to like being placed well apart which was a surprise as  I thought they would lose their way with over 6 feet between them. They are a great speaker that with a little tuning can produce magic..There is a sense of the artist venue and space weather studio ' live or a car' when watching netflix   Ha Ha.

I listen to folk' jazz and quite a lot of indie tracks and can recommend these speakers. Room is 5 meters by 7 meters and they fill it very well..They are sat on the 5 meter wall.

When I first unpacked them I thought they would have no bass as they were so small ' but they are the best small speakers I have heard..I have a pair of Dynaudio 52' s that i thought would be hard to beat ' but the Neats are just fun and musical compared with The Dyno's that sound a bit dry in comparison.

Think these are a keeper for a while 

 

 

Posted on: 03 March 2017 by b_lund

Seconded they are great little speakers

They perform the complete dissapearing act with a good source

Just in some rooms the bas can be challenging

 

Posted on: 04 March 2017 by ndx202-
b_lund posted:

Seconded they are great little speakers

They perform the complete dissapearing act with a good source

Just in some rooms the bas can be challenging

 

A Camellion ' they address all music styles with a great sense of the venue and the best timing that I have ever heard from my setup..Every style of music is catered for nigh on perfectly to my ears..

Posted on: 05 March 2017 by ndx202-

They even play digital media organically...First time I have heard and felt  what Naim can do through speakers that communicate  rather than just shout.. ...May even provoke the dreaded upgrade path....

Posted on: 19 March 2017 by ndx202-
Hungryhalibut posted:

An F connection is what you need. There's an FAQ about it. 

How does the sound improve with the naca jumpers.??. I have naca5 . is it just an all over better synergy compared to the brass connectors ?

Posted on: 20 March 2017 by Richard Dane

In my experience, pretty much any decent bit of wire (in the past I have used the basic hook up wire Naim used inside their speakers) in place of metal links on bi-wire speakers is a substantial upgrade. F connection makes it neat and prevents deterioration from oxidation of bare copper ends.

I remember having a big pair of B&Ws in briefly that I'd been asked to move on.  I hooked them up to the main system and was somewhat underwhelmed by their performance.  And so I took a good look at how I might improve matters and one of the first things I did was to remove the links and replace with wires - so much better, it was really quite remarkable.

Posted on: 20 March 2017 by james n
Richard Dane posted:

In my experience, pretty much any decent bit of wire (in the past I have used the basic hook up wire Naim used inside their speakers) in place of metal links on bi-wire speakers is a substantial upgrade.

Quite - I'm always dismayed to see a decent speaker spoiled by bi-wire terminals especially with those awful pressed brass plates. For such innocuous bits of metal they do have a surprising influence on the final result and usually not in a good way. 

Posted on: 22 March 2017 by ndx202-
Richard Dane posted:

In my experience, pretty much any decent bit of wire (in the past I have used the basic hook up wire Naim used inside their speakers) in place of metal links on bi-wire speakers is a substantial upgrade. F connection makes it neat and prevents deterioration from oxidation of bare copper ends.

I remember having a big pair of B&Ws in briefly that I'd been asked to move on.  I hooked them up to the main system and was somewhat underwhelmed by their performance.  And so I took a good look at how I might improve matters and one of the first things I did was to remove the links and replace with wires - so much better, it was really quite remarkable.

The old speakers are in my profile' old BW DM1800 , were ok but not exactly fast and foottapping like these motive 3's .. They seem to show the amplifiers strengths in the way that Naim describe their EQ... I will probably try some of the f links at some point , But am really enjoying having a pair of speakers that throw sound around even at relatively low volumes Richard. I have just got some new springs and rubber gomets for a Systemdek ix900 from Audionote and am enoying a deck I have not heard for 20 plus years. It to is a good mach with the speakers etc ' so all is good .Thanks for the comments...

Posted on: 24 March 2017 by Evil Weasel

I moved to petite sx and do miss my motives at times.

I quite fancy having another pair, they are great entertainment and shine at low volumes as well. Petite are noticeably better but find need a bit more welly to appreciate, the motive always make you take notice.

enjoy!

Posted on: 24 March 2017 by Christopher_M
Evil Weasel posted:

I moved to petite sx and do miss my motives at times.

I quite fancy having another pair, they are great entertainment and shine at low volumes as well. Petite are noticeably better but find need a bit more welly to appreciate, the motive always make you take notice.

enjoy!

I now feel slightly guilty, Ben, in expressing my one-time enthusiasm for the Petite SXs. I liked them because I found them tameable in this small room, with their clever bung adjustments. The Motive 2s I tried (and I know the OP is talking of Motive 3s) just seemed to have too much woolly bass. You are in a far larger room, hence different experiences, I think...

Chris

Posted on: 25 March 2017 by Evil Weasel

Hi Chris 

No need, I am happy and enjoy the petites. Just the motive are easier to like. I get a different satisfaction from petite.

Not sure speaker search is over but given these hectic days, I am content enough.

Cheers

ben

Posted on: 08 May 2017 by ndx202-
Christopher_M posted:
Evil Weasel posted:

I moved to petite sx and do miss my motives at times.

I quite fancy having another pair, they are great entertainment and shine at low volumes as well. Petite are noticeably better but find need a bit more welly to appreciate, the motive always make you take notice.

enjoy!

I now feel slightly guilty, Ben, in expressing my one-time enthusiasm for the Petite SXs. I liked them because I found them tameable in this small room, with their clever bung adjustments. The Motive 2s I tried (and I know the OP is talking of Motive 3s) just seemed to have too much woolly bass. You are in a far larger room, hence different experiences, I think...

Chris

Yes with a little experimentation and f jumpers in place now the sound is less wooly a little tighter and very good...

Posted on: 08 May 2017 by Christopher_M

Good stuff. Neats are decent.

C.

Posted on: 08 May 2017 by Klout10

I also love my Neat Motive SX2  great combination with Naim!