Kudos C2 vs Neat Elite SX

Posted by: Clive Gidney on 03 March 2017

I'm currently using a 62/HiCap/140 combination with Linn Keilidhs and have the opportunity to change the speakers to either of the above.

What are anybody's thoughts on these two speakers?

Posted on: 03 March 2017 by The Strat (Fender)

Heard them both several times but only under show conditions.  Both excellent at their price point it would really come down to personal preference and most what works best in your room.  Home demo essential.

Regards,

Lindsay 

Posted on: 03 March 2017 by hungryhalibut

Out of interest, why are those the only two speakers under consideration, especially as they are very similar? Have you thought about a pair of SBLs? I'd also think about swapping the 140 for a nice serviced 250. It will really kick whichever speakers you choose into life. 

Posted on: 03 March 2017 by b_lund

Extremely nice speakers but you might not have the power for them

Mind you your Keilidhs are much easier driven and goes closer to wall

Of the two I guess the Elite will be preferable

Going up in speakers its important to have a first class source

Posted on: 03 March 2017 by Clive Gidney
The Strat (Fender) posted:

Home demo essential.

 

Unfortunately they are being sold by different people at opposite ends of the country

Hungryhalibut posted:

Have you thought about a pair of SBLs? I'd also think about swapping the 140 for a nice serviced 250. It will really kick whichever speakers you choose into life. 

I loved SBLs when they came out, but they'll be about the same vintage as my Keilidhs & must be getting near to EOL, especially for spares if needed.

A 250 is on the wish list

 

Posted on: 04 March 2017 by robgr

I had C2s and have now moved up to C20s which gives much more of the same great sound

Kudos have great synergy with Naim kit as I believe they use Naim in their design/configuration

Due to their port design they are also easy to position nearer walls if space is at a premium

Posted on: 04 March 2017 by al9315

I just moved from Kans to C20s a few months ago. The C20s are the 1st full range speakers I have had, they are a revelation. I do feel the 140 will struggle (I have 2 x 135), but if you are heading towards a 250, I think you will enjoy them a lot !

Posted on: 04 March 2017 by yeti42

I heard C2s when they were used in a demo (Audio T Reading) of Hicap vs HicapDR vs Supercap DR between a 282 and a 250-2, source was CDX2 with and without a 555ps. the bass was rather muddy until the supercap was in place, remarkable how it cleaned it up. There was probably a fair bit of room influence in the mud but it can't have been all room or the supercap wouldn't have had the effect it had. 

You'll be taking a chance without a home audition so make sure the price reflects that so you can sell them on if necessary.

Never heard the neats.

Posted on: 04 March 2017 by The Strat (Fender)

Having auditioned both brands in my lounge but not those models, if no dem was possible I'd say given the Kudos  reputation for easier integration I'd say they are the least risky     But everything else being = both promise great music.  

Posted on: 04 March 2017 by Novichok-1977

Elite SX Great Speakers! I move from Linn Kan Mk2. 

Posted on: 09 March 2017 by Clive Gidney

Thanks everyone for your input.

I had the opertunity to hear the Kudos C2s in the vendors system -  CDX2/72/Hi cap - with my 140 (he had an olive 250) & initially I was seriously underwhelmed. However as the dem progressed things got better & better which we put down to my amp having gone cold overnight since I had taken it out of my system. In fact it sounded so good, the vendor said it confirmed his suspicion that his 250 needed servicing. He thought my 140 sounded better than his 250 & swapping over confirmed that while my 140 hadn't got quite the bottom end extension of his 250, my 140 has far more sparkle & pace & was more engaging.  It 8 years since my 140 was serviced but his 250 had never been serviced so it just goes to show. 

Anyway  I'm now sat listening to a pair of cherry finish Kudos C2s & they are a significant improvement on my Keilidhs  

I have also bought a 2012 vintage 200 off eBay & while it is an improvement over my 140 (which is probably due another service)  I'm not blown away so it may go back on ebay

Posted on: 09 March 2017 by hungryhalibut

If you want to keep the 72, it's a nice serviced Olive 250 that you want.