Is there a glossary of terms used in Digital HI-Fi
Posted by: Peter Lambert on 09 March 2017
Streamers, Renders, Players etc the terms are not clear to me, are they defined anywhere ?
If not, there should be
As a technophobe it took me a while to get beyond FUBAR and SNAFU!
It was worth the effort though.
I'm not aware of anything comprehensive, although the Unitiserve reference manual has a glossary that covers the server side of things. Slightly out of date now, though.
Page 24 onwards - here is the link:
Adam Zielinski posted:Page 24 onwards - here is the link:
HI, thankyou but the link does not seem to work
Peter Lambert posted:Adam Zielinski posted:Page 24 onwards - here is the link:
HI, thankyou but the link does not seem to work
https://www.naimaudio.com/product/unitiserve
This is the link to the UnitiServe site. Scroll down to the manuals' section.
Peter Lambert posted:Streamers, Renders, Players etc the terms are not clear to me, are they defined anywhere ?
Part of the problem is that terms are not well defined and can vary with different manufacturers / users.
I found the Gramaphone article on Listening Wirelessly quite useful...it has a glossary as well.
https://www.gramophone.co.uk/f...listening-wirelessly
Peter Lambert posted:Streamers, Renders, Players etc the terms are not clear to me, are they defined anywhere ?
You will hardly find definitions, the terms are used with slightly different meanings in different contexts. But after reading the "getting started" section of http://www.thewelltemperedcomputer.com/, you should be comfortable with these and other notions. Best, nbpf
Thankyou useful lists but they do not really define the three key components I am a bit unclear on, Streamers, Renderers and Players.
Peter Lambert posted:Thankyou useful lists but they do not really define the three key components I am a bit unclear on, Streamers, Renderers and Players.
In a nutshell and according to my understanding:
1) a streamer is a device that implements a renderer and a DAC. For example, NDS and Chromecast Audio are streamers.
2) A renderer is a software or device consisting a UPnP client and a player. The UPnP client is the process that sends requests to a UPnP server and is controlled by applications like Kazoo, Naim App, Lumin, etc.
3) A player is a generic term denoting a software that manages a play queue, accepts pause, stop, resume playback command and, very often but not always, controls access to local music files. Examples of players are Audirvana, MPD and the many "players" running on mobile devices.
If you have access to an Android mobile phone or tablet computer it is a good idea to install BubbleUPnP. This is an application that allows you to select a UPnP server in your LAN and stream to a renderer (also in your LAN). You will see that the application gives you the possibility to also stream to a "local renderer" which is part of the application itself. This shows you that a control point and a renderer can run on the same device and, in fact, be part of the same application. In much the same way it is possible to have a UPnP server and a renderer running on the same device.
It is perhaps also useful to keep in mind that operating a streamer-based solution involves running 3 processes, typically on 3 different devices: a UPnP server on a NAS, a renderer on a streamer and a control point running on a mobile device. Operating a player-based solution involves running 2 processes: a player typically running on a music server and a control software running on a mobile device.
Thus, for instance, operating the Core (connected to a DAC via SPDIF) as a player only involves running the Core and the Naim app. But operating the Core as a UPnP server involves running the Core, the Naim app and a streamer.
Best, nbpf
I think the term "renderer" is too confusing, it is probably a marketing term.
banzai posted:I think the term "renderer" is too confusing, it is probably a marketing term.