Sold my orginal uniti - bought a Mu-so Qb

Posted by: Mrs Wogan's lemon drizzle cake on 12 March 2017

Hi all.  So i sold my old original uniti thinking that the streaming hardware (ie its 20p CPU) was a bit long in the tooth and may not be able to keep up with advances in streaming audio.  I didnt fancy shelling out for an upgrade card and TBH that system was a bit overkill in my kitchen as the acoustics in the room are rubbish anyway - tiled floor and lots of glass.  Sold it and also my kef LS50's.

So plan was to replace it with a bog standard amp which i could plug my macbook pro into.  How bad can a "cheap" amp be?  We.... I ended up with a Cambridge audio jobby for 150 quid, however i soon realised that the amp was terrible quality (sound only comes out of one speaker at low volume, which is a "feature " apparently).

 It also made an annoying humming sound, even without anything plugged in.  Anyway back to Richer sounds that went.  

Anyway long story short I replaced it with another  Naim - a Mu-So QB which me and the other half are really happy with.  Sounds just as good as the uniti in my kitchen tbh.  

The only problem I have is getting "random" play to work on my UpNp collection - i'm aware that playlists are limited to 500 tracks, is there any way around this?  

I used to get around this limit on the uniti by hitting "play on all tracks" and selecting random on my uniti's remote, but obviously this isn't possible with the QB - is there any way around this? I do hope so as this 500 track limit sucks.

Cheers!

Posted on: 14 March 2017 by ChrisSU

You must have some looooooong listening sessions if 500 tracks aren't enough! Anyway.....if you want to play in random mode, doesn't it stay that way once you've selected it on the app?

Then, if you select the UPnP input on the app and navigate to the track list, what happens if you then press play on the remote instead of the app? Just a guess, but that's the only way I can think of that might possibly work.

Posted on: 15 March 2017 by Mrs Wogan's lemon drizzle cake

Hey Chris, heh, yeah that would be a long listening sesh.  

It's actually more about having my entire collection on shuffle over time and the happy surprises this brings when a track i've either skipped the first time around on an album or just completely forgotten about pops up.  I think the larger the random pool the more variety it brings with more welcome surprises when a cool track comes up out of nowhere.

I don't have a remote with my Qb otherwise i'd have used your workaround (which is how i used to do it on my uniti).  Anyway I'm actually thinking of moving to spotify premium as i could use thier shuffle mode instead, just don't really fancy paying 9 quid a month for the privilege.   I'm still keen to understand why this limitation actually exists.  It's been debated before but it still seems strange to me.

Posted on: 15 March 2017 by ChrisSU

I'd forgotten that the remote for a QB is an optional extra! If you can establish that it's an effective workaround, maybe it would be worth getting one - at least it would be cheaper than a Spotify sub.

Putting your whole collection on random can throw up interesting combinations - it once caused us a hilariously embarrassing moment when my mate's mum walked into the room to compliment him on his choice of classical music, only to be hit with the opening bars of Ian Dury's Plaistow Patricia!

Posted on: 15 March 2017 by Mrs Wogan's lemon drizzle cake

Ha, brilliant.  Buying a remote is a good call however i just checked the MuSo remote and it seems that there is no random button on it.

Posted on: 15 March 2017 by ChrisSU

On the Naim streamers I've used, once you turn on random using the app, it stays that way until you turn it off, regardless of weather you use the app or the remote, so I was assuming that the Musos were the same. 

Posted on: 15 March 2017 by CSI_Basel
ChrisSU posted:

On the Naim streamers I've used, once you turn on random using the app, it stays that way until you turn it off, regardless of weather you use the app or the remote, so I was assuming that the Musos were the same. 

How do you that? 

I have a Superuniti and I don't see the Random option 

Posted on: 15 March 2017 by ChrisSU

Tap the ... symbol at the top and you'll see the random and repeat symbols, as below...

Posted on: 15 March 2017 by CSI_Basel

Ok - in the the new app. The random icon has moved to the bottom next to the skip icon. 

Next question-how do you add photos to a post using an ipad?

Posted on: 15 March 2017 by ChrisSU
CSI_Basel posted:

Ok - in the the new app. The random icon has moved to the bottom next to the skip icon. 

Next question-how do you add photos to a post using an ipad?

I was referring to the iPhone version of the app, but you are right, on iPad they are at the bottom.

Posting photos needs a free Photobucket account. It's a bit of a faff, but easy once you've sussed it out. Instructions:-

https://forums.naimaudio.com/to...web-into-your-post-1 

Posted on: 16 March 2017 by Gavin B

How are you getting your files to the Qb?

I use Asset to serve up files from a media PC.  Asset has some built-in playlists including a random selection from all songs. This effectively gives you what you want, except the random selection is done in two stages - firstly by Asset, and then from within it's playlist by the Naim app.  The Asset playlist brings back a different set of songs each time, and you can configure it to bring back more than 500.

(Isn't any method limited by the size of the play queue in the app?)

Posted on: 17 March 2017 by Simon-in-Suffolk
Mrs Wogan's lemon drizzle cake posted:

Hey Chris, heh, yeah that would be a long listening sesh.  

It's actually more about having my entire collection on shuffle over time and the happy surprises this brings when a track i've either skipped the first time around on an album or just completely forgotten about pops up.  I think the larger the random pool the more variety it brings with more welcome surprises when a cool track comes up out of nowhere.

I don't have a remote with my Qb otherwise i'd have used your workaround (which is how i used to do it on my uniti).  Anyway I'm actually thinking of moving to spotify premium as i could use thier shuffle mode instead, just don't really fancy paying 9 quid a month for the privilege.   I'm still keen to understand why this limitation actually exists.  It's been debated before but it still seems strange to me.

Hi, you be closing on this now already, but there is no way to randomly select from your collection via the app... the only thing you can do is randomly select from your playlist that you have to create.

If you want to randomly select from your entire collection (assuming it's larger than your playlist) then you need the functionality in your UPnP DLNA media server to achieve this. For example Asset has a server based 'Jukebox playlist' feature which will randomly generate a playlist at the server end from your entire music collection and allow your Naim to stream it.. works well.. albeit there can be some strange sequences of tracks 

Posted on: 18 March 2017 by Mrs Wogan's lemon drizzle cake

Cheers for the heads up. I cant really be arsed to mess about with setting up Asset on my Synology TBH so I've actually given up and found Spotify Connect to be brilliant.  Not used spotify in years and couldn't reset my password as it was linked to an old work address.  

Spotify support (based in Japan?!)  where top notch and helped me out, even though i was using a free account.  As soon as i logged in and realised how good it both looks and sounds now i signed up for premium.  Bargin for 5 quid a month!

Posted on: 18 March 2017 by dave-mac

Do you really find the QB to sound as good as the uniti / kef combo? That's a hell of an accolade for the muso!

Posted on: 18 March 2017 by Mrs Wogan's lemon drizzle cake

Hi Dave, I actually find it better in my space tbh.  The kef/Unity combo was lacking in the low end (i think partly due to the bad acoustics in my kitchen) so having a nice sub on the QB delivers a much nicer sound, to my ears at least.