Ovator S400 vs Kudos Super 20s

You missed the joke there....

How can you buy a 252 twice? I couldn't buy it once 

Christopher_M posted:

Why the sledging? Mango's just trying to get as much pleasure as possible from playing back music at home, same as the rest of us.

Chris

Sledging (?) - if you're finding the system comes together once an Ethernet cable is reversed then something is up. I'd expect more at this level of kit. If my system was this sensitive then i'd be getting some help from my dealer to help me sort out what's going on...

I had S20 on home audition while I owned S-400, two years ago. The room came out in the end as bright sounding and I left it as a music room. Still, Ovator was brighter and more shouty in that room than Kudos. At that time I kept Ovator because of the "live" presentation and me thinking I would solve the room issues.

Based on my latest findings with Kudos (I have ordered Super 20) in my new room, they can sound a bit upfront, but I have tamed it quite easily. There was a S-400 set available to a bargain some weeks ago, but I chose to let them go based on my former findings.

MM, you should just fill your room with more furniture, bookshelfs and so on. If not, you will as I said above, not come to an end with this.

All in my opinion of course.

Stover - thanks for the post. I appreciate it.

HiFi is funny - the only speaker that I think worked perfectly in that room were the tiny Harbeth P3ESR. Maybe living rooms like mine are common in the USA, and that's why Harbeth seems to be very popular here..

james n posted:

Christopher_M posted:

Why the sledging? Mango's just trying to get as much pleasure as possible from playing back music at home, same as the rest of us.

Chris

Sledging (?) - if you're finding the system comes together once an Ethernet cable is reversed then something is up. I'd expect more at this level of kit. If my system was this sensitive then i'd be getting some help from my dealer to help me sort out what's going on...

I just think let's cut people a bit of slack, James, over what's supposed to be a pleasure.

Best, Chris

MangoMonkey posted:

HiFi is funny - the only speaker that I think worked perfectly in that room were the tiny Harbeth P3ESR. Maybe living rooms like mine are common in the USA, and that's why Harbeth seems to be very popular here..

My wild guess; to a certain degree it`s because of it`s character, but basically because of it`s size and obviously less room sensitive?

James, I thought you were calling for the men in white coats. You said later get some help from a dealer. Sorry.

C.

I thought exactly the same thing. 

Yes i suppose both could be implied from my replies. Anyway point taken 

try some dyna's Mango.... if only to audition. I doubt very much you will regret them.

@AnalongMusic -  Thanks for the tip. I've tried the entry level dynaudio. Not really what I'm looking for. I might do a Dynaudio system in the car at some point.

A guy I used to work with - quite a while ago - had a Volvo V70 with a Dyna upgrade.  When I got in the car I asked if I could hear some music and commented on the speakers to which he  replied "are they good speakers then"!!!

Once a week, the same way some people go to church, most of us should remember that the recording is 90% of what comes out of the system. Tonight I have played two CDs on my CDX2-lavender-Supernait-S–400s. One was dreadful (an older recording of Mahler's 9th Symphony from 1975, probably live, probably badly recorded), the other a splendid recording I was very amiably presented by a forum friend; it is now sounding gorgeous. The real source is the recording, and all the rest is secondary. Please, never forget this or each one of us is doomed to perennial paranoia.