Chord Mojo to Chord 2Qute/Hugo/Hugo2?

Posted by: Amused on 21 March 2017

Ok, I think it's time to move on from my Chord Mojo (being used as a desktop DAC) to a more serious offering from Chord.

As some of you know, I struggled to find a matching amp for my Dyn's and finally settled with a preloved Supernait 1. The transport is the new Oppo UDP-203. Following the advice from many forum members, I placed an order for a new HiCap DR (not yet delivered), a pair of TQ Ultra Black speaker cable (not yet delivered), and a TQ UB RCA-RCA interconnect (delivered). I also upgraded my wall socket to a Furutech double schuko gold plated socket (for the SN1 and the HCDR). Thinking of a getting a used Powerline as well. So this is my setup (to be), and the DAC in this equation is the Chord Mojo which I intend to sell and upgrade to a better DAC from Chord.

So, should I go with:

1. Chord 2Qute (would be the best for my needs as it's a true standalone DAC, but I'm worried about it's fixed 3V output which might not be the best match because of the high input sensitivity of the SN1) - £999

2. Chord Hugo mk1 (many prefer it over the 2Qute for some reason, but essentially it's the same as the 2Qute apart from the headphone amp, the Bluetooth input, filters, etc.) £1400

3. Chord Hugo 2 (should be available soon, no real world reviews yet). £1800

What are your opinions? 

Posted on: 22 March 2017 by cat345

I have a Hugo and like it very much but I would not buy a 'not user replaceable batteries' dac again, never mind what Chord says about the upcoming Hugo 2. 

Posted on: 22 March 2017 by Amused

Well, your opinion lines up with my concerns. Especially having in mind I don't live in the U.K., and possible future repairs would be a pain for me. All batteries die eventually, sooner or later. 

Posted on: 22 March 2017 by Timo

So possibly wait for the new 2qute? Assuming Hugo 2 will eventually also move into the Chordette...

 

 

Posted on: 22 March 2017 by yeti42

I see Chord have worked out the likely battery lifetime of the Hugo2.

" Non-user-serviceable batteries are covered by a limited 18-month warranty from initial date of purchase."

 

 

Posted on: 22 March 2017 by Amused
yeti42 posted:

I see Chord have worked out the likely battery lifetime of the Hugo2.

" Non-user-serviceable batteries are covered by a limited 18-month warranty from initial date of purchase."

 

 

Well, that sums it up.

Timo posted:

So possibly wait for the new 2qute? Assuming Hugo 2 will eventually also move into the Chordette...

 

 

I am afraid my Mojo battery will die before the new 2Qute is released

Posted on: 22 March 2017 by ryder.

Another alternative is a used Chord QBD76. It is a full-sized DAC with all proper connections including USB Type B and can take a proper power cord.

Posted on: 22 March 2017 by analogmusic

QBD76 is not made anymore.

Posted on: 22 March 2017 by Emre

Than we skip to Dave! Can these chords powered by usb / current when the battery dies?

Posted on: 22 March 2017 by yeti42

I've just put a 2qute on my Core, its nearly new so judgement is tentative but so for its a bit joyless though it gives the impression of rolling along quite nicely and clarity is good. I've got it for around a week.

Posted on: 22 March 2017 by 1GiantLeap

To Yeti

The 2Qute needs a week to burn in before you can hear it properly. Leave it on 24/7 and give yourself time at the end of the week to appraise it then.

Posted on: 22 March 2017 by Wm.

I'm sure most setups are different, but I leave my Mojo plugged in 24/7 and use in line level mode.  Is that a no-no for the battery?

Posted on: 22 March 2017 by Amused

Ok, some great news regarding the Hugo2 battery concerns.

Originally Posted by Rob Watts:

The simple answer to that is - a very long time. Hugo 2 will actually work with the battery disconnected. Also I have put in a desktop mode (charger connected for > 24 hours), so the battery voltage is reduced to 8.0 to 8.2 V for longest possible battery life. And in this mode, the battery is not using up the charge/discharge cycles - so it should last practically indefinitely.

Originally Posted by Rob Watts:

Yes it will function without the batteries and just a 2A USB charger connected. It's not something I have listened to as it is not a mode anybody should ever experience, nor is it recommended.

 

Posted on: 23 March 2017 by analogmusic

oh well ho hum

I think we spend a lot of time worrying about upgrading, rather than getting even basic interconnects right and the minimum speaker cables that are really working well with Supernait.

I would forget about any upgrades, Amused, other than NACA5 or SL, and a real Naim 3.5mm to Din cable.

Then buy a Naim Powerline power cable for the SN1

Then sit back, and enjoy the music.

The Mojo is very capable to be the last DAC you will ever need - but you do need a good, (preferable Naim made)  interconnect to hear that.

 

 

Posted on: 25 March 2017 by yeti42

An update on the 2qute. It's perked up a bit after feeding it in a loop since tuesday. Wishbone ash don't sound lethargic as they did on the   Rega DAC but there's still a sterile efficiency about the replay, Tool have no menace but sound tight and more detail is picked up than through the DVD5 but this does convey the menace. The Chord is like a BMW, highly competent but never really gets a hook in you. (I've ridden a Guzzi for 20 years, I had a R100RS before that). Still not a week old yet though....

Posted on: 25 March 2017 by Amused

Is the 2Qute your first Chord DAC? You may want to try  a linear power supply, there are many positive reports on the web (even though the designer says there is no benefit).

Any word on the Hugo2 release date anyone?

Posted on: 25 March 2017 by pete T15
Amused posted:

Is the 2Qute your first Chord DAC? You may want to try  a linear power supply, there are many positive reports on the web (even though the designer says there is no benefit).

Any word on the Hugo2 release date anyone?

I had a quick listen to the Hugo2 at the Headroom show yesterday , it sounds and looks great ! Very interesting changing the filters from Dave to Mojo . I was told that production will be ramped up in the next couple of weeks so not long to wait . 

Posted on: 25 March 2017 by yeti42

It's a loaner, will be trying the Hugo 2 too but if this character persists I'll keep searching. NDS?

Posted on: 26 March 2017 by NJB
Richard Dane posted:

Even the Naim shoebox pre-amps were reportedly capable of taking up to 7V through their inputs before overload, so 3V is no problem at all.  Only problem might be that you'll have very little useable range on the volume control before it gets very loud..

While the kit takes it, the volume control is barely off the end stop and I always worried that I was not in the optimum operating range of the ampliffier. 

Posted on: 26 March 2017 by Moussa

Hugo 2 or keep the Mojo and save your money

Posted on: 30 March 2017 by Amused

Has anyone with a 2Qute ever tested one of the Rothwell Audio  attenuators with their Naim gear?

Posted on: 06 April 2017 by ThatsNotMyNaim
Amused posted:

I am more inclined towards the 2Qute as it's a true standalone solution, but have concerns regarding the 3V output.

Been there, done that. It wasn't pleasant with my XS2. 

The Hugo was a revelation. Probably the only revelation I have had so far! 

 

Posted on: 06 April 2017 by ThatsNotMyNaim
ThatsNotMyNaim posted:
Amused posted:

I am more inclined towards the 2Qute as it's a true standalone solution, but have concerns regarding the 3V output.

Been there, done that. It wasn't pleasant with my XS2. 

The Hugo was a revelation. Probably the only revelation I have had so far! 

 

It's all in the turquoise volume setting with the Hugo.

You get clear, crisp, open sound but without a little tizzy edge that you get with the Qute. It's much more pleasant to listen to. And dare I say it; more analogue.

I can only imagine the Hugo2 must be even more resolving and natural. Because Hugo is already really clear and open.