Auditioning speakers

Posted by: Parlow on 22 March 2017

i spent a good a couple hours auditioning speakers yesterday (PMC twenty5.23 and Neat Motive SX1).  I used a verity of tracks that I know well, reflect the music I listen to, and would demonstrate what I wanted to hear from the speakers. The tracks were:

To my ears, the Neat speakers were better at the indie music (The LIbertines and Foals) and the PMCs better at the electronic music.  I think it was because the Neats added a little bit of warmth and smoothed out a little of the harshness in electric guitars.  The PMCs would get a little fatiguing with indie music.  Once a better amp was added (250DR) to the PMCs they did sound more cohearent however.  With electronic music the Neats sounded a bit slow and base heavy, whereas the PMCs had loads of energy

The other thing I should note is that the sales man was really nice and a step up from the man in an other shop who showed me Focal (Electra 1008Be) and ProAc (D20R).  Ultimately, I know the "sales experience" is only a small factor, but it is a factor, to me at least 

Posted on: 22 March 2017 by Christopher_M

Now what?

Chris

Posted on: 22 March 2017 by Halloween Man

Characteristic of transmission line (PMC) vs ported (Neat). There is a third way you might want to try before making up your mind, a sealed design (ATC SCM19 or SCM40).

Posted on: 22 March 2017 by Huge

The PMCs are ported as well, they are an open transmission line, the Neats are reflex, both are ported enclosures.

Posted on: 22 March 2017 by nickpeacock

Ah, but just wait till you hear a pair of panels (Martin Logan, Magnepan, Quad)...

Posted on: 23 March 2017 by Huge

I'd like to have a room big enough to accommodate dipole speakers.

Posted on: 23 March 2017 by hungryhalibut

A huge room then. 

Posted on: 23 March 2017 by Parlow

I've gone and ordered the PMCs. A year of speaker hunting has done my head in.  In absolute terms I think I preferred the sound Focal Electra 1008be, but I just don't trust the dog with stand mounted speakers which is why I dis counted the ATC SCM stand mounts and the SCM40 was just too big.  I've also gone and ordered a NAP250dr as PMCs sounded so much better with a power amp.  My Uniti2 will remain on streaming duties until I can save up my pennies and get a NAC272.

Posted on: 23 March 2017 by hungryhalibut

I had the previous twenty.23 when I first got my 272/250 and they sounded super. Be aware that they take a long time to run in, much longer than PMC suggest. 

Posted on: 23 March 2017 by ChrisH

Congratulations on your purchase Parlow.

I moved from Neat Motive 2's to PMC Twenty5.23's last October, a big step up, understandable when comparing the relative sizes of the speakers. But the bass detail, and overall level of detail top to bottom really won me over.

It took me a while to get the positioning right, you may need to experiment a bit compared to how PMC recommend the set up, their suggestion didnt work for me at all. And as HH says, running in did seem to take a while... But will sound great with NAP250DR Im sure - Enjoy!