Olive 135 naim logo not lighting but amp works

As an Olive 135 owner with no detailed knowledge of the power railing, my first suspicion would be that the "bulb"  has blown, I don't know of any power/fuse separation, but hopefully someone who knows more can help. I would suggest a service or checkup tho', that doesn't sound good (even if the amp still does).

Similar thing happened to me in my hallway, came home one night and it was all dark 

after investigation, that turned out to be a lightbulb too

Olive 135s - do they use bulbs- I don't think so

i opened up the unit - I think it's an LED.  I looked closely- there seems to be a single resistor that doesn't look right. Could a high volume surge cause this? The resistor is on the small panel that makes up the LED light 

is it wrong to turn it back on and listen to music even if it sounded right. My instinct is that this has to be related to sudden high volume but I don't know what I am doing - advice?

im in the USA and this means shipping to AV options which means no music for awhile

david

David - the Olive components have a small PCB board with (IIRC) 10 leds on it to light up the Logo. The board has a resistor on it which can fail with age. If the amp is still working ok (you say it sounded fine) then it's only this board which is the problem and you can keep using the amp until you can get it fixed. You should be able to get your dealer to get this fixed for you. 

PS - just seen that you mentioned AV options. Give them a call for extra re-assurance. 

Ok that sounds right

no dealer since purchased second hand

will speak to av options

I reluctantly parted with my active SBL system recently due to being rarely able to use it since my retirement.  This included 2 Olive 135s and 2 CV ones.  Can't tell you about failed lights in the Olives, but the lights in both my CB 135s failed, and although I got replacements for them, I never got round to replacing them.  Didn't make any difference at all to the sound IMO.  I suspect the same will apply to the Olive's lights.

Now I just have the 552/300 etc system in my study.   

Sorry David, I was being a bit casual and put bulb in "" to suggest a lighting problem rather a real bulb. Having lost a much loved Epos ES14 speaker to an Unserviced 135 and a lightning strike (my fault), if you haven't got any sound problems, I don't think you'll have any serious issues after the trigger, but I think it's worth getting the pair checked.

But I think it's ok to play music ? Don't want to damage anything

James N gave the accurate info, sounds like a totally discrete board, so no immediate risk, but if it's had a power hit (sorry I don't know the background), it'd be sensible to get the amp checked maybe when you go on a break. 

No power surge- last night my Flash remote malfunctioned sending up the volume to 12 o'clock with music playing. My biggest concern was whether I could have damaged the tweeters on my Focal speakers - but all sounded fine. This am both 135s were lit up. Then when I got home I noticed that the right 135 was dark- but the music sounded fine and both channels were working . Thus I opened up the faulty 135 and saw what appears to be a bad looking resistor on the LED panel- everything else inside the amp looked clean and good. So I would like to use my system but just want to make sure it is safe. I don't know how I could possibly repair this myself. David

How old are your amps David - running without the logo lit will do no harm and it could wait until a service is due. It's an easy job to sort out if you know what you are doing though (or a local dealer could do it for you) but i would speak to AV Options as they are best placed to advise on the best course of action. The old CB 135's used a small bulb located in the switch which could blow (and rumour has it, they sounded better with the bulb removed...).

Anyway glad to hear that the system is sounding fine, flash and broken logo issues aside.

James

thanks James- how easy to sort out?  what needs to be done? david

I'd be going beyond the Forum rules unfortunately David - from what's been described already then if you know what you are doing then you can fix it (you need a DVM and be capable with a soldering iron). Did you speak to AVO ? 

Just checked my records- my 135s were serviced 10 yrs ago by NANA.

So I should prob have them serviced.  However, question arises in the context of all olive system- 01, 52, 135s am I better off having AV options do a full service (just under $3000 US dollars) or selling the 135s and putting the $ towards a 300 second hand (prob $6500-$7000) for a non DR 300.  IOW - will a non DR 300 be better that a top serviced pair of 135s- note AV options does GREAT work and I`m sure my 135s would be like new.  Also olive keeps everything looking well... olive.  Opinions??

david

My 300 was a fantastic amp and a big upgrade on my 250. Compared to freshly serviced 135's though - that's a good question.... Some interesting decisions to be made their David, Good luck 

I don't know about how the Olive lights work-but the light intensity in the CB range used to pulse in time with the music-getting dimmer (I think) on loud transients. So, if anything, overdriving the amps would have protected rather than harmed the bulbs. There was some mention that CB 250/135 used to sound a tad better once the bulbs had blown-which was actually fairly often. 

DavidF-I did the 135 to non-DR 300 'upgrade' in context of an active DBL system. My instinct would be to have AVO do the full deluxe service on the 135s. There really are benefits to having a dedicated transformer per channel that are lost on the 300. I suspect after a thorough service the 135s will actually be better than new. While a used non-DR300 may be worse than new. 

thanks Ron, I think that is what I will do.  I think that having turned the 135s off and on several times during the night my Flash went crazy may have  further strained the LED system. I had mentioned that I opened up the 135 and the one resistor on the LED board looked bad to my uneducated eye. 
AV options will do a top job and at least I know what I am getting.
Also, I like the olive aesthetic quite a bit.   Would be tempted to go for second hand 500 but not ready to part with that much cash right now.   david

keep the 135s and have them serviced -- they are damn good amplifiers, and i speak as one who has 6 of them in a sixpack :-)

yes, I spoke to av options and hope to send in my 135s soon for complete refurbishing.

Good plan David, I had my HICAP, 82 and 135s serviced a few weeks ago, as they've run in, they've transformed from their pre-service performance, they're great amps.

DavidF

what about the 52 & supercap if that is due why not do it all at once, you may find it sounds odd for a week or 2, this is normal so don't panic 

as for the 300 - this was discussed here in depth some years ago and from what I could gather it was more of a sideways move rather than up the ladder 

the 135's are hell of an amp, been using these since 1989, until recently had 8 of them, now down to my last half a dozen like Jon

in my mind there is only one upgrade for these and yes it becomes costly, even more so if you need 3 of them 

likewise there is only one serious upgrade for the 52

i'm taking it as read that none of us are ready for the Statements although a Statement 6 pack would be nice.

i've got my old Briks in the hallway, how about a Statement 6 pack and Bricks !!!

Lyndon

Maybe I should have kept the other 2 135's and had a Hallway system with the Briks

just been reading about suggestions a certain fish on here might have a system in his loo

or did someone confuse that with cistern ???

Lyndon

lyndon posted:

DavidF

what about the 52 & supercap if that is due why not do it all at once, you may find it sounds odd for a week or 2, this is normal so don't panic 

as for the 300 - this was discussed here in depth some years ago and from what I could gather it was more of a sideways move rather than up the ladder 

the 135's are hell of an amp, been using these since 1989, until recently had 8 of them, now down to my last half a dozen like Jon

in my mind there is only one upgrade for these and yes it becomes costly, even more so if you need 3 of them 

likewise there is only one serious upgrade for the 52

i'm taking it as read that none of us are ready for the Statements although a Statement 6 pack would be nice.

i've got my old Briks in the hallway, how about a Statement 6 pack and Bricks !!!

 

Lyndon

 

My 52/supercap was given the uber service from AV Options 5 yrs ago so not going for that now

Just to clear my head- my current system: cds2, 01, 52/supercap, 135.  All in a very large room. So I am now planning to ship my 135s back to AV options for complete refurbishing. 

Having perused Audiogon today I see there is a 3 yr old nonDr 300 for just under $7000 US. Also a nonDR nap 500 for $9000 with serial number 222xxx. Both are listed an mint.

i assume I could get $2000-$3000 for my 135s as they have power lines.

not really crazy about spending on the 500 plus it will eventually need recapping.

what to do ???   I'm leaning to sending my 135s back to av options. 

David

nonDR 500 will disappoint compared to 135s. I know others disagree, but with DBLs its a slamdunk in my experience

Now a DR 500 would be interesting comparison