Naim Roon Implementation

Chris Harris? Isn't he one of the new guys on Top Gear? Perhaps you mean Phil?

Naim have said that they plan to add Roon functionality to the new streaming platform at some point, which means the new Uniti range for now. I assume you would have to wait for the new streamers that will replace the current range (NDX2 ?) if you want Roon. I don't think there's any chance that the current models will run it. 

Mack,

I have read that the mR can operate with Naim, so you can add one upstream of the NDX - although you will need to also host the Roon Server as well.

M

Despite having the aforementioned name, unfortunately I am not able to update you on Roon implementation Mackb3.

Its not me on Top Gear either, must be some other pretender              

Sorry for the error and apologies offered. I did mean Phil not Chris. Moving on to Roon.

Cheers

See the thread on the Roon Community Forum at https://community.roonlabs.com...ridge-beta/15698/199

This UPnP Bridge enables a Naim Streamer (Classic, Pre-Amp, Muso) using UPnP to accept a stream feed from a Roon Core, despite that Naim is not a Roon Endpoint.

So you will need hardware to run i) the Roon Core, which needs a NUC, MiniMac, or i5 NAS, ii) somewhere to run the Bridge and a Roon licence. Once you have these, you can use the Roon Remote on iOS/Andriod/Windows (same interface across all platforms) to drive Naim as a Roon End-point, playing WAV, LPCM and DoP. Roon has an excellent interface to find, organize and manage a music library.

Roon has an excellent interface to find, organize and manage a music library. I have been using Roon stand-alone on a Laptop, since early Beta releases, to manage my library, assist with metadata management, and drill down to the actual file location normally hidden by the UPnP server.

You should also be mix and match your multi-room environments, with not just Naim equipment, as you can manage different end-points from different manufacturers such as Sonus, Squeezebox etc.

This will give you independence on playback of local sourced content on a NAS or USB disks, from the Naim app - which quite frankly is not receiving any development for the Classic streamers - UX/UI errors not fixed, no holistic search facilities etc.

Roon gives you a rich, metadata enriched windows on your music library - the combination of Roon Core and the UPnP Bridge looks like it has seamless operation with Naim. Watch this space.

It seems like the bridge has to be run on proprietary hardware, is this correct or am I missing something?

It would be interesting to try this with a Naim streamer but buying hardware somewhat puts me off this as a proof of concept exercise.

trickydickie posted:

It seems like the bridge has to be run on proprietary hardware, is this correct or am I missing something?

It would be interesting to try this with a Naim streamer but buying hardware somewhat puts me off this as a proof of concept exercise.

Yes, the UPnP Bridge runs on a Sonore box, the cheapest being a $165 one, which I believes runs a cut-down Linux OS.

However given the limited development and prioritization Naim is giving on support for the Classic streamers range in terms of the Naim App and firmware development - it may be a route worth some investigation.

Simon.

1. As a rune server goes, you can build an i5 based Vortexbox with a SSD for the main drive and either SSD or NAS Drive relatively inexpensively.  Plus minimserver is an easy add as a upnp server.

Many thanks for the instructions to integrate the bridge. I have confirmed via the Roon forum and is a viable solution. Still considering the microRendu/UltraCap route into the 2Qute since I did have demonstrated vs the NDX. On my rig both excellent but the mR/UC rendering a deeper and more detailed insight to the music.

I use a Sonore Sonicorbiter SE which acts as a Roon endpoint then outputs to either the digital/USB port of my unitiqute 2. Works a treat. 

I can then use Roon to create rooms and zones. 

Would Roon be able to find the metadata for Wav files ripped by a unitiserve?

Short answer is yes. 

My understanding is and I'm not an expert so you might be best to head over to the Roon community forums, if you have a well structured filename/folder for your wav,  Roon will use this to lookup and then create its own metadata store. 

The unitiserve uses a proprietary system with a separate database for the metadata, which is why I asked the question. I suppose one could convert to FLAC if the answer is no. 

Dozey posted:

The unitiserve uses a proprietary system with a separate database for the metadata, which is why I asked the question. I suppose one could convert to FLAC if the answer is no. 

I would recommend storing in FLAC on the US, with or without Roon.

I've just read a review on the Uniti Core and Atom a Dutch website ... most important takeaway for me was that the reviewer mentioned that all new Uniti's are Roon Compatible ...

Roon was not used during the review however ...

ChrisSU posted:

Dozey posted:

The unitiserve uses a proprietary system with a separate database for the metadata, which is why I asked the question. I suppose one could convert to FLAC if the answer is no. 

I would recommend storing in FLAC on the US, with or without Roon. 

But WAV sounds better on Naim streamers... 

totemphile posted:

ChrisSU posted:

Dozey posted:

The unitiserve uses a proprietary system with a separate database for the metadata, which is why I asked the question. I suppose one could convert to FLAC if the answer is no. 

I would recommend storing in FLAC on the US, with or without Roon. 

But WAV sounds better on Naim streamers... 

 

So you set the US to transcode to WAV on the fly and you streamer doesn't have to deal with FLAC. No idea if this would still be possible with Roon, though?