Snaic wrong direction
Posted by: davidf on 01 April 2017
last week had to shut down system due to flash remote problem and had to disassemble system in order to check out failed logo light on one of my 135 amps. I reconnected system and all was well. However over past week I thought maybe system wasn't quite sounding as good as I had remembered. Discovered that the 5 pin snaic connecting 52 to supercap was connected wrong way with band on snaic at 52. So I shut down system and reconnected snaic with band at supercap. Since doing this my system is sounding better- more musical and more coherent.
question: real or placebo effect? Can inserting snaic wrong way affect the sound quality?
david
According to some the whole HiFi system differences are 'placebo' or 'self-deception'. ![]()
But when I had a 552 and did the same as you I could hear the cable sounded different the other way around. I was not sure at first it was better, but it was definitely different and a bit coarser the 'wrong' way.
DB.
I sometimes wonder if unplugging a cable and plugging it back in has removed some corrosion or other crud from the plug/socket, so that the improvement you hear might be due to the improved connection rather than any different cable arrangements.
Fair point Chris - however the connections were all redone a week ago and system not sounding right all week.
The band should be at the preamp end if it's the supercap powering the 52, assuming it's the same as for the 252, not if it's another supercap powering a phonostage though.
yeti42 posted:The band should be at the preamp end if it's the supercap powering the 52, assuming it's the same as for the 252, not if it's another supercap powering a phonostage though.
Oops !
So should the band on the burndy. The bands go where the signal starts, i.e. from 52 to Supercap and then on to the 135s.
yeti42 posted:The band should be at the preamp end if it's the supercap powering the 52, assuming it's the same as for the 252, not if it's another supercap powering a phonostage though.
I concur. I was beginning to doubt myself when I read Davids post. To refresh my memory a quick check on my 552 head unit (green band) and 552PSU confirmed your reply. Band is always nearest the source end. Think of how the signal travels towards the speakers.
badlands posted:
How patronising these "experts" are!
Major damage to the snaic it will have to go back to Naim and placed on their cable shaker for several weeks.
There is a sort of exception with the 300PS as the band on the burndies goes at the NAP300 end not the PS. I appreciate this is power not signal but it surprised me - although I struggled to locate the band initially
So where would the band on the burndy sit in a cds3/xps2
The CDS3 end, Richard.
Chris
I remember reading here that directionality of a cable is based on the manufacturing process and when a cable is used in the "wrong" direction it will eventually render itself properly to that condition. The notion being that once you've installed a cable backward continue to use it that way. Reversing it will involve a period of reconditioning the cable to the "proper" direction - the electrons may be bumping heads for a while. Then again, electrons don't really flow in electrical current, they simple nudge the one next to them. Proper directionality might make it easier for the electrons to give their neighbor a nudge.
ChrisSU posted:I sometimes wonder if unplugging a cable and plugging it back in has removed some corrosion or other crud from the plug/socket, so that the improvement you hear might be due to the improved connection rather than any different cable arrangements.
corrosion and crud? Maybe after 30 years this has some effect.
Chris Dolan posted:There is a sort of exception with the 300PS as the band on the burndies goes at the NAP300 end not the PS. I appreciate this is power not signal but it surprised me - although I struggled to locate the band initially
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Chris, that makes sense - the banded end always goes closest to the music source or source of signal.
Richard Dane posted:Chris, that makes sense - the banded end always goes closest to the music source or source of signal.
Richard, I accept that there is a logic , which is why I said "sort of", and the direction anticipated is made very clear in the manual. I still feel that some will, like me, have an initial expectation that the power could be perceived as the source.