How many still use cd-player?

Still buy all my albums on CD, rip straight away to Core and then play.  Keep two back ups* as well as the physical discs just in case.

*plan is to hold a back up at another location other than home...

have listened to so much more music now that all of my collection is now digitally stored.

David O posted:

Still buy all my albums on CD, rip straight away to Core and then play.  Keep two back ups* as well as the physical discs just in case.

*plan is to hold a back up at another location other than home...

have listened to so much more music now that all of my collection is now digitally stored.

Pretty much the same as my M.O. although I have to confess to 4 backups(!) - 2 in the NAS, 1 in the AirPort Extreme, 1 on a USB external kept at a friends, which I update every 3 months or so.

I honestly don't know how those who rely solely on physical format (vinyl or CD) ever find the time to choose what to play! When I had only two or three hundred CDs I cricked my neck on countless occasions whilst browsing the shelves - now I have over two thousand (only a medium sized collection compared to some) I would find it next to impossible to ever choose anything! To be able to 'browse' the iPad is fantastic! I'm prepared to accept that a high end CD transport may well outperform my system, but it sounds pretty good to my ears. I can't imagine ever reverting to a non-streaming method of playback.

Tim

CDS3/555, LP12 and Sony Walkman Pro. That's enough to satisfy me. With those who needs streaming??

Timmo1341 posted:

David O posted:

Still buy all my albums on CD, rip straight away to Core and then play.  Keep two back ups* as well as the physical discs just in case.

*plan is to hold a back up at another location other than home...

have listened to so much more music now that all of my collection is now digitally stored.

Pretty much the same as my M.O. although I have to confess to 4 backups(!) - 2 in the NAS, 1 in the AirPort Extreme, 1 on a USB external kept at a friends, which I update every 3 months or so.

I honestly don't know how those who rely solely on physical format (vinyl or CD) ever find the time to choose what to play! When I had only two or three hundred CDs I cricked my neck on countless occasions whilst browsing the shelves - now I have over two thousand (only a medium sized collection compared to some) I would find it next to impossible to ever choose anything! To be able to 'browse' the iPad is fantastic! I'm prepared to accept that a high end CD transport may well outperform my system, but it sounds pretty good to my ears. I can't imagine ever reverting to a non-streaming method of playback.

Tim

Tim, this is something I have been meaning to ask all you streaming people too but from the opposite angle.  Honestly, many years ago I started wasting time in my precious life with i-Tunes because I thought this was the future.  I can tell you I spent more time in front of a computer managing it and finally I realized that this is not what I want to be doing.  Haven't touched it in years after stuffing 25,000 songs in it.  The only thing I listen to lately is the last thing I added.  The more I put in the less I enjoyed it and actually it is a nightmare to pick something - unless you just listen randomly.  I listen more and enjoy it more perusing through my physical collection and I have an exceedingly large CD and vinyl collection.

I was quite surprised to see how many here actually still have and use a CD player!  This is a good thing.  If you read the fake news you would think everyone has moved to streaming.  Enjoy it I guess until the next shiny object comes along.  The format (vinyl/CD) doesn't really control how much or how little I listen to music.  I am the one who personally controls this.  

I am currently enjoying my CDS3 / 555 PS although my constant dream since the CD 555 was released has been to move to a CD 555 and 2 x 555 PS DR'd.  Reading here that Naim is discontinuing this player now is very disturbing.  Naim, you are breaking my heart with this.  If you would have lowered the price you would have found you couldn't keep up with the demand and I would have owned this already and been a Naimee for life.  Don't hold your breath either as I will never buy one of your streaming devices.  Surely I am not the only one who feels this way although admittedly I know I'm in the minority and someone who Naim doesn't think is worth supporting into the future.  Very sad.

Florestan posted:

Timmo1341 posted:

David O posted:

Still buy all my albums on CD, rip straight away to Core and then play.  Keep two back ups* as well as the physical discs just in case.

*plan is to hold a back up at another location other than home...

have listened to so much more music now that all of my collection is now digitally stored.

Pretty much the same as my M.O. although I have to confess to 4 backups(!) - 2 in the NAS, 1 in the AirPort Extreme, 1 on a USB external kept at a friends, which I update every 3 months or so.

I honestly don't know how those who rely solely on physical format (vinyl or CD) ever find the time to choose what to play! When I had only two or three hundred CDs I cricked my neck on countless occasions whilst browsing the shelves - now I have over two thousand (only a medium sized collection compared to some) I would find it next to impossible to ever choose anything! To be able to 'browse' the iPad is fantastic! I'm prepared to accept that a high end CD transport may well outperform my system, but it sounds pretty good to my ears. I can't imagine ever reverting to a non-streaming method of playback.

Tim

Tim, this is something I have been meaning to ask all you streaming people too but from the opposite angle.  Honestly, many years ago I started wasting time in my precious life with i-Tunes because I thought this was the future.  I can tell you I spent more time in front of a computer managing it and finally I realized that this is not what I want to be doing.  Haven't touched it in years after stuffing 25,000 songs in it.  The only thing I listen to lately is the last thing I added.  The more I put in the less I enjoyed it and actually it is a nightmare to pick something - unless you just listen randomly.  I listen more and enjoy it more perusing through my physical collection and I have an exceedingly large CD and vinyl collection.

I was quite surprised to see how many here actually still have and use a CD player!  This is a good thing.  If you read the fake news you would think everyone has moved to streaming.  Enjoy it I guess until the next shiny object comes along.  The format (vinyl/CD) doesn't really control how much or how little I listen to music.  I am the one who personally controls this.  

I am currently enjoying my CDS3 / 555 PS although my constant dream since the CD 555 was released has been to move to a CD 555 and 2 x 555 PS DR'd.  Reading here that Naim is discontinuing this player now is very disturbing.  Naim, you are breaking my heart with this.  If you would have lowered the price you would have found you couldn't keep up with the demand and I would have owned this already and been a Naimee for life.  Don't hold your breath either as I will never buy one of your streaming devices.  Surely I am not the only one who feels this way although admittedly I know I'm in the minority and someone who Naim doesn't think is worth supporting into the future.  Very sad.

I think if you never made it past iTunes you haven't really given streaming any sort of a fair trial. As for choosing what music to play, I'll wager a pound to a pinch of camel s**t that I can flip through any given number of albums via title and album art far quicker from the comfort of my listening chair than you can get yourself over to the racks of on edge jewel cases, then squint at what's written on the side, then remove from shelf, remove from said jewel case, walk over to CD player, open tray, remove puck........ need I say more?!

All that said, this really isn't a competition. If you, and whatever percentage of other music lovers, prefer to discount a perfectly valid, high quality option, be my guest. I have actually owned, for many years, CD players and vinyl decks so am at least qualified to pass an opinion.

Enjoy the music.

Tim

my mate bought a CD5si a couple of weeks ago and it beats his SU streaming part (Spotify and lossless from NAS) with two fingers in da nose. Tighter base, more PRAT, more directness, more lively. So now he's buying lot's of second hand cd's

Got myself a Meridian 200 CD transport in very nice condition last week mainly for its classy looks. Had a brief listen, not bad at all. Last CD player I had was a CDS2 which I sold 5 years ago.

Florestan posted:

I am currently enjoying my CDS3 / 555 PS although my constant dream since the CD 555 was released has been to move to a CD 555 and 2 x 555 PS DR'd.  Reading here that Naim is discontinuing this player now is very disturbing.  Naim, you are breaking my heart with this.  If you would have lowered the price you would have found you couldn't keep up with the demand and I would have owned this already and been a Naimee for life.  Don't hold your breath either as I will never buy one of your streaming devices.  Surely I am not the only one who feels this way although admittedly I know I'm in the minority and someone who Naim doesn't think is worth supporting into the future.  Very sad.

 I can also say that my experience with HDX was quite infuriating, when i ripped a disc it gave a uncorrect or too generic musical genre assignation and browsing the library was slower than catching a record on my bookcase.

Regards

Roberto

I still do, with a system from the late 80's.  After my amplifier died for the third time.  It was sent out for repair never to return.  No loss there.  I then had an excuse to look a new.  I still had by old mind set and had the opportunity to purchase a Uniti system.  Though all I was after was a new amp.  $4,000 AUD later and I walked out with a Naim Nait XS 2.  My jaw dropped when comparing the 5Si and the XS 2.  I was so happy with the XS 2 and it fit my budget I did not even look at a Suppernait 2.  Possibly, silly me.  But I was more than happy with my selection.

If I had known better I might have gone down the line of a streamer.  But living out in the Bush and having three adult gamers at home poor old Dad comes in fourth or fifth place.  I can not stream Youtube or internet radio stations.  So lucky for me I had my blinkers on.  I still enjoy CD's and am looking to upgrade my CD player which I was once so proud off.  Though now with the internet for research I found out my 1989 CD Player rolls off after 15kHz.  At age 54 I might not hear the difference.  Though I do not want my system to be the excuse for not hearing the highs.

Another point I want a simple system so my wife can enjoy her CD's as well instead of messing around with Apps on iPads.  She is more than able.  Though if there was a bandwidth problem.  I think she would be disappointed.  Our internet connection runs at 3Mbps (ADSL2).  We are hoping to join the 21st century in September this year when we may have a 150Mbps broadband connection divided between about 10 devices.  The gamers will be the heavy users of course.

Well that is what happens when you live in the sticks.

Cheers from Down Under.

Warm regards,

Paul.

Timmo1341 posted:

Florestan posted:

Timmo1341 posted:

David O posted:

Still buy all my albums on CD, rip straight away to Core and then play.  Keep two back ups* as well as the physical discs just in case.

*plan is to hold a back up at another location other than home...

have listened to so much more music now that all of my collection is now digitally stored.

Pretty much the same as my M.O. although I have to confess to 4 backups(!) - 2 in the NAS, 1 in the AirPort Extreme, 1 on a USB external kept at a friends, which I update every 3 months or so.

I honestly don't know how those who rely solely on physical format (vinyl or CD) ever find the time to choose what to play! When I had only two or three hundred CDs I cricked my neck on countless occasions whilst browsing the shelves - now I have over two thousand (only a medium sized collection compared to some) I would find it next to impossible to ever choose anything! To be able to 'browse' the iPad is fantastic! I'm prepared to accept that a high end CD transport may well outperform my system, but it sounds pretty good to my ears. I can't imagine ever reverting to a non-streaming method of playback.

Tim

Tim, this is something I have been meaning to ask all you streaming people too but from the opposite angle.  Honestly, many years ago I started wasting time in my precious life with i-Tunes because I thought this was the future.  I can tell you I spent more time in front of a computer managing it and finally I realized that this is not what I want to be doing.  Haven't touched it in years after stuffing 25,000 songs in it.  The only thing I listen to lately is the last thing I added.  The more I put in the less I enjoyed it and actually it is a nightmare to pick something - unless you just listen randomly.  I listen more and enjoy it more perusing through my physical collection and I have an exceedingly large CD and vinyl collection.

I was quite surprised to see how many here actually still have and use a CD player!  This is a good thing.  If you read the fake news you would think everyone has moved to streaming.  Enjoy it I guess until the next shiny object comes along.  The format (vinyl/CD) doesn't really control how much or how little I listen to music.  I am the one who personally controls this.  

I am currently enjoying my CDS3 / 555 PS although my constant dream since the CD 555 was released has been to move to a CD 555 and 2 x 555 PS DR'd.  Reading here that Naim is discontinuing this player now is very disturbing.  Naim, you are breaking my heart with this.  If you would have lowered the price you would have found you couldn't keep up with the demand and I would have owned this already and been a Naimee for life.  Don't hold your breath either as I will never buy one of your streaming devices.  Surely I am not the only one who feels this way although admittedly I know I'm in the minority and someone who Naim doesn't think is worth supporting into the future.  Very sad.

I think if you never made it past iTunes you haven't really given streaming any sort of a fair trial. As for choosing what music to play, I'll wager a pound to a pinch of camel s**t that I can flip through any given number of albums via title and album art far quicker from the comfort of my listening chair than you can get yourself over to the racks of on edge jewel cases, then squint at what's written on the side, then remove from shelf, remove from said jewel case, walk over to CD player, open tray, remove puck........ need I say more?!

All that said, this really isn't a competition. If you, and whatever percentage of other music lovers, prefer to discount a perfectly valid, high quality option, be my guest. I have actually owned, for many years, CD players and vinyl decks so am at least qualified to pass an opinion.

Enjoy the music.

Tim

What a patronising load of bollocks.  

Florestan posted:

Tim, this is something I have been meaning to ask all you streaming people too but from the opposite angle.  Honestly, many years ago I started wasting time in my precious life with i-Tunes because I thought this was the future.  I can tell you I spent more time in front of a computer managing it and finally I realized that this is not what I want to be doing.  Haven't touched it in years after stuffing 25,000 songs in it.  The only thing I listen to lately is the last thing I added.  The more I put in the less I enjoyed it and actually it is a nightmare to pick something - unless you just listen randomly.  I listen more and enjoy it more perusing through my physical collection and I have an exceedingly large CD and vinyl collection.

 

From the above it seems to me you have had a very poor introduction to streaming, not representative at all of it's capabilities.

I hate iTunes with a vengeance, and if that were what is needed for streaming I would undoubtedly have replaced my last CD player with another CD player and not a streamer: it is no guide to what streaming is, does or how it can work. (That said, I believe some people use an iTunes interface, which I can only assume is through having grown up with an iPod or similar.)

And I never play music by random play, and the vast majority of the time play complete albums, just by browsing and selecting.

To me, moving from CD to sreaming from my own local store was just the most logical and forward-looking step, with hard disk storage nowadays so cheap, all my music can be saved in a very small space, exactly the same information as stored on CD so no sound quality compromise, though with the added capability of higher resolutions. What is not to loke?

Whatever I could read in a CD booklet I can read on the screen of my phone or iPad I use as the remote control (though just as with CD, once past being new it is rare to do so). However there is a downside, as I do find I prefer to follow an opera translation of the libretto on the physical booklet, so I have those to hand from the original CDs - no doubt someone has or will present them sometime in a format easily followed on the ipAd, but I haven't found yet.

Compared to vinyl, That to me is far more  compromised than modern digital replay, and while it can sound warm and engaging, I don't think the sound quality is as good. I do miss the physicality of an LP sleeve and liner notes, gatefold sleeves etc, which when I was young was part of the fun especially with every new purchase, but I don't miss their storage space or gradual deterioration. (I ripped my LPs to CD just before CD player died and switched me to streaming.

BTW, My consideration of streaming here is only of streaming my purchased music from my own store, and does not extend to online streaming, with which I have no experience, and in which I have no interest whatsoever.

The Strat (Fender) posted:

Timmo1341 posted:

Florestan posted:

Timmo1341 posted:

David O posted:

Still buy all my albums on CD, rip straight away to Core and then play.  Keep two back ups* as well as the physical discs just in case.

*plan is to hold a back up at another location other than home...

have listened to so much more music now that all of my collection is now digitally stored.

Pretty much the same as my M.O. although I have to confess to 4 backups(!) - 2 in the NAS, 1 in the AirPort Extreme, 1 on a USB external kept at a friends, which I update every 3 months or so.

I honestly don't know how those who rely solely on physical format (vinyl or CD) ever find the time to choose what to play! When I had only two or three hundred CDs I cricked my neck on countless occasions whilst browsing the shelves - now I have over two thousand (only a medium sized collection compared to some) I would find it next to impossible to ever choose anything! To be able to 'browse' the iPad is fantastic! I'm prepared to accept that a high end CD transport may well outperform my system, but it sounds pretty good to my ears. I can't imagine ever reverting to a non-streaming method of playback.

Tim

Tim, this is something I have been meaning to ask all you streaming people too but from the opposite angle.  Honestly, many years ago I started wasting time in my precious life with i-Tunes because I thought this was the future.  I can tell you I spent more time in front of a computer managing it and finally I realized that this is not what I want to be doing.  Haven't touched it in years after stuffing 25,000 songs in it.  The only thing I listen to lately is the last thing I added.  The more I put in the less I enjoyed it and actually it is a nightmare to pick something - unless you just listen randomly.  I listen more and enjoy it more perusing through my physical collection and I have an exceedingly large CD and vinyl collection.

I was quite surprised to see how many here actually still have and use a CD player!  This is a good thing.  If you read the fake news you would think everyone has moved to streaming.  Enjoy it I guess until the next shiny object comes along.  The format (vinyl/CD) doesn't really control how much or how little I listen to music.  I am the one who personally controls this.  

I am currently enjoying my CDS3 / 555 PS although my constant dream since the CD 555 was released has been to move to a CD 555 and 2 x 555 PS DR'd.  Reading here that Naim is discontinuing this player now is very disturbing.  Naim, you are breaking my heart with this.  If you would have lowered the price you would have found you couldn't keep up with the demand and I would have owned this already and been a Naimee for life.  Don't hold your breath either as I will never buy one of your streaming devices.  Surely I am not the only one who feels this way although admittedly I know I'm in the minority and someone who Naim doesn't think is worth supporting into the future.  Very sad.

I think if you never made it past iTunes you haven't really given streaming any sort of a fair trial. As for choosing what music to play, I'll wager a pound to a pinch of camel s**t that I can flip through any given number of albums via title and album art far quicker from the comfort of my listening chair than you can get yourself over to the racks of on edge jewel cases, then squint at what's written on the side, then remove from shelf, remove from said jewel case, walk over to CD player, open tray, remove puck........ need I say more?!

All that said, this really isn't a competition. If you, and whatever percentage of other music lovers, prefer to discount a perfectly valid, high quality option, be my guest. I have actually owned, for many years, CD players and vinyl decks so am at least qualified to pass an opinion.

Enjoy the music.

Tim

What a patronising load of bollocks.  

Quite restrained actually, given that to which I was responding. When I want your opinion I'll give it to you.

With due apologies to the OP for the thread turning somewhat less than courteous.  

Regards,

Lindsay