Which application to use for file transfer?

Does your naim server have a static IP address? If it has an IP address that doesn't change, windows is more likely to find it.

Otherwise, you could transfer the files with a Linux or Mac machine.

As a Mac user, I'm not the best qualified person to answer your question, but I think you need to map the NS01 drive so that your PC finds it consistently. Then drag and drop, or copy and paste, should be easy.

You dont need an application; file transfer is handled by the operating system.  Drag and drop as you have been doing.  You just need to solve for why your machine doesn't consistently see your server.  

Seems more like a problem with the way Windowze handles the network- attached devices.

But in principle moving folders / files is a simple drag'n'drop regardles of the operating system.

I thought I had assigned a fixed IP address to the NS01. I'll check that out tomorrow. Thanks for that tip, Juanito.

It's simply a matter of mapping the drive in Windows explorer. Once mapped, it will always be there. 

Get Visual Studio Community edition and write your own windows service that syncs the two folders. Fun weekend project for a non programmer.

Drag & drop in Windows File Explorer.        

Clive B posted:

Among those of you who buy numerous digital downloads, which application do you use to tranfer files from the 'Downloads' folder on your PC to your server? I use a Windows PC (with Windows 10) and a Naim NS01 server. Typically I download albums as .zip files which I unzip in the 'Downloads' folder on the PC, then I try to drag and drop the folder so created to the 'Downloads' folder on the NS01 by using Wndows Explorer. However, it is seemingly a totally random event if the NS01 shows up on the network in Windows Explorer. I can rescan the network several times, each time with differing results. Sometimes the router shows up, sometimes not. But it is rare for the NS01 to show up. Is there another computer application that is more reliable? Thanks for any advice or tips.

I use rsync mainly from my laptop. Downloaded files land in a share/audio/import directory. After data transfer has completed, a copy is immediately sent to share/audio/originals/SOURCE directories on different local and remote backups via rsync scripts. Here SOURCE is prestoclassical, hyperion-records, qobuz, etc. depending on where I have downloaded the files from. 

After this, I unzip the .zip file (in share/audio/import), give the created folder a proper name, cleanup the files' metadata and transfer the new folder to a share/audio/data directory on an attached drive. From there, it goes (again via rsync) to the (share/audio/data directory of the) main music server for a short listening test.

If everything is fine, I finally propagate the new  share/audio/data directory to local and remote backup drives, again using rsync scripts. Then I cleanup the share/audio/import directory on my laptop.

I am not a fan of using tools like Windows Explorer for transferring data, rsync is very efficient and flexible and gives you total control on what you are doing. It is available for most platforms, included Windows.

I do not know the NS01 but I doubt that it runs an rsync client. The lack of support for efficient and flexible data transfer protocols is one of the major disadvantages of Naim servers, in my view. If the NS01 does not support rsync or scp, you are at the mercy of your OS and of how it handles automatic mounts of network file systems. If the NS01's folder does not show up reliably in your WE on your PC, this might be a problem of your NS01 or of your PC.

Can you check if the NS01's folder show up reliably on another computer in the same network? If this is the case, you should probably check the network setup of your PC. Otherwise, there might be a problem with your NS01 setup (static IP address?) or with your network.

My own experience is that my windows 7 PC rarely sees anything on my network, unlike my old vista PC that has no problem. The networks is fine in every other regard. But as HH says, if you map the drive, then it's always there. And you can drag and drop or copy and paste using whatever you like.

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David

I've been using SyncToy for some time now and find it to be a simple, reliable solution.

With a mapped network just use Windows  Explorer, unless you like to complecate a simple task.

Claus

Exactly,  why complicate a very simple task.  - download  (check>edit metadata)  drag & drop to upload

Mike 

i think what Clive is saying is that he can't always see the downloads folder with his PC and is asking about a programme that could reliably do this for him. As I said before I think the answer is to map the downloads folder and then use windows explorer, as you say.

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David

David Hendon posted:

Mike 

i think what Clive is saying is that he can't always see the downloads folder with his PC and is asking about a programme that could reliably do this for him. As I said before I think the answer is to map the downloads folder and then use windows explorer, as you say.

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David

That's it, David. I'll have a go at mapping the downloads folder. I have read a bit about this just now on the Internet. It seems I assign the NS01s downloads folder as a drive, say 'z:'. Then in future I should be able to click on z: and see the contents of that folder in Windows Explorer. Is that correct? 

That is correct for Windows.

In a MacOs a drive can be placed on a desktop (that's how it's mapped).

Adam, Clive says he uses a Windows PC!

Yes Clive, that is correct and it's easy. Let us know if you have a problem.

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Davod

David Hendon posted:

Mike 

i think what Clive is saying is that he can't always see the downloads folder with his PC and is asking about a programme that could reliably do this for him. As I said before I think the answer is to map the downloads folder and then use windows explorer, as you say.     best    David

OK I understand.  As it happens I can't always see my NAS files,  most times it's OK but it plays up on odd occasions. Win-10 seems to have the problem as I don't recall the same with previous progs,  but I can normally get it to play nicely with a bit of persuasion.

When it appears, just right click it and the map option appears. It's just so easy. Then drag and drop - no need for any fancy software whatsoever. 

David Hendon posted:

Adam, Clive says he uses a Windows PC!

Yes Clive, that is correct and it's easy. Let us know if you have a problem.

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Davod

Yes - I realise that. I gave the Mac OS answer just for completness sake.

I am very wary of 'drag and drop'. Much prefer to right click file to be t/f and select copy, then select target and  'paste'. 

after ripping  meta data checked/modified on memory stick. just seems the best idea then to drag//drop..

Unfortunately I'm unable to do this because currently the only network folder showing this evening is 'This PC'. Whilst the NS01 shows up as a media device, it doesn't show up as a store. Curiously, it shows up just fine when I do a network scan using 'Fing' on my iPad. It can also be seen on the Naim DTC. I'll just have to see if it's feeling more cooperative tomorrow. 

When you ask your PC to map it, you have to tell your PC where it is. If you look in the IOS app, you will see a name, assuming you haven't changed it. Then you can tell your PC to map \\name/downloads or whatever and it should find it.

Another thing that once worked for me, with Phil on the phone instructing me, was rebooting the router and then immediately mapping it.

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David

David Hendon posted:

When you ask your PC to map it, you have to tell your PC where it is. If you look in the IOS app, you will see a name, assuming you haven't changed it. Then you can tell your PC to map \\name/downloads or whatever and it should find it.

Another thing that once worked for me, with Phil on the phone instructing me, was rebooting the router and then immediately mapping it.

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David

Thanks for that tip, David. I will try rebooting the router tomorrow and then firing up Windows Explorer to see if it can find the NS01.

I realise I had to tell it where to look, but I tried doing this by using the 'browse' switch, but the only item it saw was the PC. When I scanned the network this evening, all it found was the PC. I assume you're saying that I manually type '\\NS01name/downloads' in the mapping process. I will try that tomorrow too.

Thanks for the advice.