Connect record player/gramophone to my Supernait

You will need a phono stage. The obvious one is Naim's Stageline, which can take power from the Aux 2 socket on the Supernait. But if you get a Rega deck and cartridge you may be best with a Rega phono stage. 

Joacim- You will need a phono pre-amp for your record player. This device amplifies the very small signal from your cartridge and then transfers it to your preamp/poweramp ( SN in your case ).

Naim offers the Stageline and Superline phono preamps. The Stageline can be configured to both MM and MC cartridges., The Superline only accepts MC cartridges. Both preamps require a power source to function- this can be the AUX2 powered input of your SN. They both also accept other dedicated power supplies from Naim- FlatCap,Hicap,Supercap. Dedicated power supplies will improve the performance of the Naim phono preamp. Previous generation Naim integrated amps and preamps often included the phono preamp in the design- the new Black series does not.

Additionally, a non-Naim phono preamp will also work if you connect to a line level input of your SN ( Aux,Tuner,etc ) As you can see, these options and combinations can be a bit overwhelming to someone just getting into vinyl. Which record player? Which cartridge? Which phono preamp? Creating a balanced combination can be difficult because there are so many variable options available.

I hope this does not deter you from trying vinyl records though... Vinyl is a wonderful source material- my chosen one. My best advice is to find a dealer who has various record players and schedule an appointment to spend some time reviewing what your needs are. The dealer can set up the turntable for you and you will be certain that it all is working as it should. Good luck !

ATB,

Mark

Hi!

Thanks, just what I thought, and what record-player would you recommend? I know Linn LP12 is the one. What is the fuzz about LP12? There is many more less expensive but not that cool I know. If I get Stageline (no problem) , would then LP12 be the obvious choice if you have the bucks? Or is a Rega ok? And I like LP beacuse the art of the cover, and the analog soft, smooth sound that i can hear.

Hi!

And thank you for your very nice answers. A a music-lover , what places to go in London to go for music?

What about a Thoren TD240 for starters

would you consider this a ok record-player?

friendly regards Joacim Carlsson

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Try to get a listen to some vinyl set-ups before diving in.  Or else start on one of the lower rungs of the ladder to get a taste before committing the inevitably much larger sums of money that will follow once you commit to the format.  One of the basic Rega decks is a great place to start and they're good enough to show you a big part of vinyl's appeal with little fuss and for a relatively modest outlay.  It looks like the Rega Planar 2 is where things get rather good in the Rega range and a Stageline or Rega Fono phono stage along with a basic Rega Carbon would, I imagine, give you a really enjoyable set-up.  It make sense to buy new from a trusted dealer when starting out and, if it were me in your shoes, this is where I would be looking to begin my vinyl journey.

Was about to say - any inexpensive Rega, but.....  Plus the Rega Fono phone stage. Leave expensive options like Linn LP12's for later, when/if you decide you like Vinyl....

It's also worth bearing in mind that if your vinyl adventure does come to a screeching halt then demand for secondhand examples of the Rega decks is extremely high so you'll have no problem selling on again quickly compared to other decks.  In fact your supplying dealer will probably be very happy to buy it back from you.

Not that I am expert, I am similar to this guy but when I hear the gramaphone it reminds me this

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_k69_UgHJS0

Emre posted:

Not that I am expert, I am similar to this guy but when I hear the gramaphone it reminds me this

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_k69_UgHJS0

 

Classic! Did Naim ever make slimline salad dressing? Maybe Aro branded?

best

David

You have a Supernait. I have a Supernait. I started last year on Vinyl by buying a Project Debut Carbon. This is kind of on the same pricelevel of the Onkyo you mentioned. I regard the Project Debut Carbon Turntable higher than the Onkyo and I regret that I did not spent some more money on it initially. These ~Euro 400 Turntables are not on the level of your Supernait.

If I'd start over, I would get the Naim Stageline since it can be powered by the SuperNait on its Aux2 port which saves me a powercord (and all related distortion).

Richard's advice above is very sound. There's no point spending thousands only to end up with ten albums. If you already had hundreds or thousands it would be a different matter. A Rega 2 or 3 with a phono stage is all you need to start. 

I have a Supernait with a stageline. Originally it was working with a vintage Systemdek, but now have a Michel Orbe SE.  There is massive choice in the turntable market these days. Like others have suggested you can't go wrong with a Rega or Project. Just need to set a budget and audition your choice. 

Excellent advice above. What decks does your Naim dealer stock? I would definitely start there as he/she will have the expertise to guide you and get things set up nicely. Good dealers are priceless!

Enjoy your vinyl, still the most engaging source IMHO.

Stu

Following the Project Debut Carbon recommendation above, also consider the Project Debut Carbon Phono-USB. Comes with the phono stage built in. Easy.

i bought a middle range TT after selling my clear audio concept MM( with a top of the line clear audio mm cartridge ), now using a EAT C-Major/ortofon quintet blue with naim stage line. 

I must confess that 272 plays better/similar to my turntable, my Cd2x as well.... 

Good AAA recordings, new ones, old ones... everything.

I am not saying that my TT bad, it is very good but did not add anything on my music enjoyment as a quality source other than spending money on records opportunity. 

So be careful with entry level turn table if you are not buying for emotional reasons, it may not add anything to your listening enjoyment other than buying occasional expensive records etc. 

So they look good and cool but i believe that in order to get a good sound you have to spend a good amount of money between TT/Phono stage etc. 

Digital is not that cool i know but enters level project won't put anything on the table SQ wise... 

So are you buying a decoration or music equipment is my question ? 

ı realised i bought a 2500 Euro decoration unit, it also a pain to wash the records, flip them etc... 

You can easily bored and live TT alone very soon i did... 

I'd try before a big financial commitment both in terms of TT and records ....

My experience of being returning to vinyl after 20 years has been mixed - new Rega 3/Elys/ rega phono stage. Vinyl playing is very tactile and the purchase of what I buy choose or to play is more considered .Whilst the end quality can be superb, the purchase of new or secondhand records has been a lot more problematic as retailers are maximising their opportunity price wise. The prices on Amazon seem to vary massively for no apparent reason. At times the price dips and then it hops up a few weeks later . I bought Elvis Costello's My aim is true  new on amazon for £8 a month a go and its now £21! As for quality, this seems very variable - several new 180g records have been sent back to Amazon as they've been warped or scratched. I'm not sure why a 1968 Marvin Gaye album should play better than something recently pressed (?)

Secondhand purchases have been mixed - some are bargains £4-8 but prices vary and £15 for a secondhand copy of the Queen is dead by the Smiths seemed just silly as its the same new on Amazon ..sometimes!  Some secondhand vinyl is just damaged or has ingrained dust. I was entirely unamused with diverse vinyl's fuss over the return of a scuffed Pretenders album and will never shop (online) with them, as it should never have been sent out. If you are buying secondhand then you need to be certain what the return policy is. I seem to be having a good deal of success cleaning older records with distilled water/alcohol using a mixed velvet and carbon fibre cleaner then a microfibre cloth to dry off.