CDX2 vs streaming.

Finkfan posted:

I can't wait to try it [@mention:54786295706447945]

Don't try it, don't try it 

Finkfan posted:

I can't wait to try it [@mention:54786295706447945]

The only problem is you will not want to send it back..

I'm sure [@mention:50422349809511500]! 

Finkfan, have you been converted to streaming? How would you compare the 272 to your cdx2?

Morning Wenger. I can honestly say I've been converted. I haven't had a lot of time to listen over the past few days but the last time the 272 had changed again and was sounding a little more delicate. Some of the bass boom I was hearing in some music has now gone. It's a brilliant bit of kit and I've found myself listening to Tidal as much as my own cd rips. The enormous library of music at your finger tips is brilliant. This weekend I shall definitely compare new setup with old, but my mind is made up.....SN, HCDR, CDX2, TQ black diamond din out, 272, XPSDR in! 

Good choice!

My CDX2 is leaving next week too. 

Finkfan posted:

Morning Wenger. I can honestly say I've been converted. I haven't had a lot of time to listen over the past few days but the last time the 272 had changed again and was sounding a little more delicate. Some of the bass boom I was hearing in some music has now gone. It's a brilliant bit of kit and I've found myself listening to Tidal as much as my own cd rips. The enormous library of music at your finger tips is brilliant. This weekend I shall definitely compare new setup with old, but my mind is made up.....SN, HCDR, CDX2, TQ black diamond din out, 272, XPSDR in! 

Traitor... I'm never going to speak to you again...

Adam Zielinski posted:

Good choice!

My CDX2 is leaving next week too. 

Traitor, I'm never going to speak to you again....

This means I may have to join you traitors....bah , humbug .......

wenger2015 posted:

This means I may have to join you traitors....bah , humbug .......

When a car was invented they made a chap walk in front, waving a flag, warning all of an impending doom....

I haven't seen that recently... Although come to think of it, given what some drivers do, that may not be a bad idea after all

Adam Zielinski posted:

wenger2015 posted:

This means I may have to join you traitors....bah , humbug .......

When a car was invented they made a chap walk in front, waving a flag, warning all of an impending doom....

I haven't seen that recently... Although come to think of it, given what some drivers do, that may not be a bad idea after all

 

I've found a flag.....just need to draw out the kids inheritance... and I'm good to go....

cd2x/555psdr/SL din/din sounding better than 272/555 for sure.... how much better is depending on the cd and rip/HD

if they were a good price upgrade i would not hesitate but it is big money to upgrade a cd player... 

still testing...

Wenger it would be CDX2 out NDX in. Keep your TQ black diamond and XPSDR. The NDX retails at nearly a grand less than the CDX2. It would make for an interesting comparison. 

I also have a similar HI-FI system, SN2 CDX2.2 and relevant TP power supply but after the  birth of my son I'm thinking to simplify further my system  but each time I load a CD in the drawer I change idea ......sooner or later I'll do the change but I do not know how to change without lose much sound quality. I'm very attracted from the new Uniti NOVA but I think it would be a very radical change!

Finkfan posted:

Wenger it would be CDX2 out NDX in. Keep your TQ black diamond and XPSDR. The NDX retails at nearly a grand less than the CDX2. It would make for an interesting comparison. 

You seem to have forgotten I am not talking to you..............but nevertheless a very good suggestion ........

My NDX isn't a patch on the CDX2 I had previously. I made a big mistake selling the CDX2 and going down the streaming route in my opinion.

I have made a positive change by upgrading to an external Beresford DAC, which is a significant improvement on the internal DAC, but it still has a harsher sound than I would like.

Really beginning to look at other options now.

Paul Downs posted:

My NDX isn't a patch on the CDX2 I had previously. I made a big mistake selling the CDX2 and going down the streaming route in my opinion.

I have made a positive change by upgrading to an external Beresford DAC, which is a significant improvement on the internal DAC, but it still has a harsher sound than I would like.

Really beginning to look at other options now.

Interesting, I don't want to be taking a backwards step.

I wonder if anyone has compared the NDX to the 272?

I have. As least, I've heard them both but in two different setups, rather than back to back.

I haven't -- but that is what I read in a German audio magazine [Germans love numbers; those we understand much better than just flowery words...]: The ND5XS scores 133, the 272 138, and the NDX 140. 

Does this correspond with the experience in the Forum?

Timo

P.S. Totoro is back from his journey in the Cat Bus -- hi Totoro!

Timo posted:

I haven't -- but that is what I read in a German audio magazine [Germans love numbers; those we understand much better than just flowery words...]: The ND5XS scores 133, the 272 138, and the NDX 140. 

Does this correspond with the experience in the Forum?

Timo

P.S. Totoro is back from his journey in the Cat Bus -- hi Totoro!

Blimey.  133 - 140 out of 100 isn't too bad.

wenger2015 posted:

Paul Downs posted:

My NDX isn't a patch on the CDX2 I had previously. I made a big mistake selling the CDX2 and going down the streaming route in my opinion.

I have made a positive change by upgrading to an external Beresford DAC, which is a significant improvement on the internal DAC, but it still has a harsher sound than I would like.

Really beginning to look at other options now.

Interesting, I don't want to be taking a backwards step.

Personally I think you may well be. The NDX is a lot harsher sounding than the CDX2. You can better it by adding an XPS2 but then you talking about spending a lot more money.

It's definitely a case where you need a demo. My experience of the NDX that if anything, when I did a home demo a while ago, I was worried that it was over-polite, where I find in my olive system a lot of digital sources seem over-bright to me. At that point  I didn't see any benefit over my HDX, which was a bit livelier and brasher. I changed my mind when I decided I wanted access to Tidal, and the NDX is now used for probably 60% of my listening, the rest being vinyl. Like everything, it can be very system and room dependent, I'm very interested that Paul's view is effectively the direct opposite of mine, but dfferent electronics and speakers downstream, different room, different ears and stuff between them...

Paul Downs posted:

wenger2015 posted:

Paul Downs posted:

My NDX isn't a patch on the CDX2 I had previously. I made a big mistake selling the CDX2 and going down the streaming route in my opinion.

I have made a positive change by upgrading to an external Beresford DAC, which is a significant improvement on the internal DAC, but it still has a harsher sound than I would like.

Really beginning to look at other options now.

Interesting, I don't want to be taking a backwards step.

Personally I think you may well be. The NDX is a lot harsher sounding than the CDX2. You can better it by adding an XPS2 but then you talking about spending a lot more money.

I actually think they sound very similar - there are possibly some small differences, but the level of details and musical engagement  is the same.

And most importantly - they play music and sound like Naim

I'm late to this thread but thought I'd throw in my two pence worth.

For me the Tidal Hifi sounds as good as my CDS3.

cDS3/ Tp -> lavender -> 552

Mac mini/ Audivana/ tidal -> TP Dac -> SL interconnect -> 552

Regards,

Nick