GOTTEN

Posted by: TOBYJUG on 19 May 2017

Is it from the cost of Naim ownership becoming more easily attainable in North America - post Brexit debacle for the Pound - that this word    "Gotten"  has been making more appearances within this forum ?

Posted on: 15 June 2017 by sjbabbey

Wake up and smell the covfefe?

Posted on: 15 June 2017 by Tony2011
sjbabbey posted:

Wake up and smell the covfefe?

Would that be an "expresso" covfefe?

Posted on: 15 June 2017 by sjbabbey
Tony2011 posted:
sjbabbey posted:

Wake up and smell the covfefe?

Would that be an "expresso" covfefe?

No it's a Latatete covfefe

Posted on: 15 June 2017 by VladtheImpala
Tony2011 posted:
Hungryhalibut posted:
Romi posted:

Despite all else I still think the most epedemic cancerous growth (I can predict someone correcting me in the use of my language)  of the English language, whether spoken by public and to my horror has crept into the television programmes such as Escape to the Country where it was spoken by the commentator (not the buyers) is the phrase 'I was stood there'.  Whats wrong with the correct grammatical term 'I was standing there?'.  At work it has become the norm to say 'I was stood there' and when I correct my colleagues to the correct term they view me with great delight and on purpose say other incorrect terms such as 'I was sat there'; but this gives me hope in that they understood the incorrect grammatical term they used.  I can still tolerate my colleagues misuse of the English Language but when it slips into the media I start to worry. Maybe the standard of editors in the media is sadly falling in regard to the correct use of the English language, I just wished the did the job correctly to the accepted standard of at least GCSE standard; is that really too much to ask of them?

You'll find a missing apostrophe and the incorrect use of a comma in your post as well as at least two spelling mistakes. 

YOU WILL  also find that the use of contractions  in written form are grammatically incorrect and unacceptable. But Iain't no puritan and apparently when used in a friendly way seems to be okay!

Contractions are perfectly acceptable after eight o'clock.

Posted on: 15 June 2017 by JRHardee

"epidemic".  Just sayin'. 

Posted on: 15 June 2017 by Erich

Meaning of “espresso” in the English Dictionary

"espresso" in British English

 See all translations

espresso

noun [ C or U ]

uk /esˈpres.əʊ/ us /esˈpres.oʊ/ plural espressos
 

strong coffee, or a cup of this, made by forcing hot water through crushed coffee beans and served without milk

English is not my mother tongue and living in America  is difficult to learn what is the correct use of English ( spelling and grammar),  that's why the dictionary plays an important role when I try to improve my English skills.  Is the dictrionary wrong and should I say "expresso"?  Is the Cambridge Dictionary good enough?

Posted on: 15 June 2017 by Simon-in-Suffolk

Yep, if you are drinking strong concentrated black coffee usually in a small cup, in English you would often say you were drinking an expresso.

Posted on: 15 June 2017 by Innocent Bystander

People I know say es- not ex- presso.

Posted on: 15 June 2017 by Christopher_M
Erich posted:

Is the dictrionary wrong and should I say "expresso"?

No, and no.

Posted on: 15 June 2017 by Innocent Bystander

But it is a not uncommon mispronunciation.

Posted on: 15 June 2017 by Christopher_M

Yes, it is a common pronunciation.

Posted on: 15 June 2017 by hungryhalibut
Simon-in-Suffolk posted:

Yep, if you are drinking strong concentrated black coffee usually in a small cup, in English you would often say you were drinking an expresso.

Only if you didn't know how to say the word properly. Espresso is correct, expresso is wrong. 

Posted on: 16 June 2017 by u77033103172058601

In many ways I think the term 'expresso' could be construed as being correct, given that 99% of coffee that is termed espresso is complete garbage and served as quickly as possible to extract the largest amount of money from the gullible cretins who buy it.

Posted on: 16 June 2017 by Innocent Bystander
Nick from Suffolk posted:

In many ways I think the term 'expresso' could be construed as being correct, given that 99% of coffee that is termed espresso is complete garbage and served as quickly as possible to extract the largest amount of money from the gullible cretins who buy it.

Personally I can't stand it - but I think tgat is a wrong  assessment, given the strength, though undoubtedly there's a difference between different sources, perhaps say  genuine aficionados and mass market outlets. Cappucino, which I do like, essentially is made with a shot of espresso and frothed-up milk. In some places it is tasteless, and takes at least a second espresso to taste even vaguely of coffee - but in good places it has a decent coffee flavour, but without the painfully intense bitterness of espresso. I also enjoy coffee with milk, which in some places is made with the same espresso, with added hot water and a moderate amount of milk.

That said, I have to observe that my best experiences of coffee have been in other countries, not Britain, so maybe your assessment of eXpresso is generally appropriate here...

Posted on: 16 June 2017 by TOBYJUG

COVFEFE had nothing to do with coffee. It was code for:

Comb

Over

Very

Flappy

Emergency

For 

Everyone

Posted on: 16 June 2017 by ChrisSU
Nick from Suffolk posted:

In many ways I think the term 'expresso' could be construed as being correct, given that 99% of coffee that is termed espresso is complete garbage and served as quickly as possible to extract the largest amount of money from the gullible cretins who buy it.

I may be a gullible cretin, but I'll drink whatever coffee I like, thanks. In my experience, any establishment that sells weak espresso will also sell regular coffee that tastes like dishwater too, and should be avoided. It's an unfortunate fact that us tea-drinking Brits don't do coffee very well. 

Posted on: 16 June 2017 by TOBYJUG

I'm quite partial to a smarting espresso. You can tell it's a good one by the temperature,  too hot and it will be spoiled. Made at 90 degrees and served at an easy to drink straight away 60 something degrees (please correct me as I'm not sure the precise temperature) is how it should be.

Posted on: 16 June 2017 by J.N.

A current gripe of mine is people being interviewed, starting their response to a question with 'So ........... '

And as for 'haitch' for H. We don't need no edjoocayshun - allegedly.

John.

Posted on: 16 June 2017 by Huge

With apologies to Tororo and our fishy friend, how about "Haitch Haitch"?

Posted on: 16 June 2017 by Huge
J.N. posted:

... We don't need no edjoocayshun - allegedly.

John.

How about this, it's one of the themes in here...


Journey of Life

From first the time we reach the light
then for ourselves a constant fight
The wonders lost as doctrine’s spread
with programmes thrust within each head
Now sleeping still as normal men
like sheep we stay within the pen
We fight a world that all appals
and hide behind our self-built walls
To be as gods we just need believe
           at any time
                      we know how to leave


Copyright © 2016 by Hugh S. Ellis
Released under the Creative Commons Attribution Non‑Commercial Share‑Alike 4.0 International Licence (CC BY‑NC‑SA).


Which begs the question... When writing in verse, which (if any) of the rules of grammar can be freely broken and which are still required?

N.B. note the split infinitive!

Posted on: 16 June 2017 by TOBYJUG

Was only reading. ". The art of versification and the technicalities of poetry" by R.F Brewer, 1937, the other day. Which gives an absolute although somewhat dated thorough going over such trifles.

https://archive.org/services/img/orthometryartofv00brewiala

Posted on: 17 June 2017 by Innocent Bystander
TOBYJUG posted:

Was only reading. ". The art of versification and the technicalities of poetry" by R.F Brewer, 1937, the other day. Which gives an absolute although somewhat dated thorough going over such trifles.

https://archive.org/services/img/orthometryartofv00brewiala

Sherry trifle?

Posted on: 23 June 2017 by Innocent Bystander

Another one I hate, unfortunately becoming more and more commonplace, is "my bad". Your bad what? Back? Dog? Taste in music? Temper? 

Posted on: 23 June 2017 by Innocent Bystander

Another one I hate, unfortunately becoming more and more commonplace, is "my bad". Your bad what? Back? Dog? Taste in music? Temper? 

Posted on: 23 June 2017 by thebigfredc

Breath.