Spend on 282 or keep 202?

Does the Supercap use two snaics into the 282?

Yes

cheeselet posted:

I have just moved from 202 to 282 and it is a good step to make.

The better your source the more it makes sense.

Your CDX2 XPS2 should be an excellent match in this regard. The 282 will reveal a lot more from this source giving more depth to the soundstage and more body to instruments and voices, to name some of the advantages.

IMO

ch

 

l once had a CDX2 and sold it within 2 weeks maybe it was faulty but on the other hand l heard it so many times from others the same compliant-bright , harsh, etc lively but only listenable with top recordings

I just moved from 202 to 282, partnered with a 200.  It is a big step, SQ improvements across the board.  Much more attack and bite.  Bought mine secondhand and very happy.

NJB - sounds like a good investment. What's your source and how are you powering the 282?

NJB posted:

I just moved from 202 to 282, partnered with a 200.  It is a big step, SQ improvements across the board.  Much more attack and bite.  Bought mine secondhand and very happy.

Good luck ,l am looking at a 282 soon but somehow this 202/200 is outstanding. l have great front ends and speakers that l don't want to upgrade them yet

Just go for it a 282 is a magnificent upgrade as compared to a 202.....

Jez R Oakley posted:

NJB - sounds like a good investment. What's your source and how are you powering the 282?

Source is a Bluesound Node 2 through a Chord Mojo.  Powered by the NAPSC plus a non Naim PSU.  

FenderStratman52 posted:

NJB posted:

I just moved from 202 to 282, partnered with a 200.  It is a big step, SQ improvements across the board.  Much more attack and bite.  Bought mine secondhand and very happy.

Good luck ,l am looking at a 282 soon but somehow this 202/200 is outstanding. l have great front ends and speakers that l don't want to upgrade them yet

I had no issues with the 202, even though it gets a mixed bag of support on here.  However, the 282 adds a lot more drama!  You will know what I mean if you try it.  My advice, do not demo it until you can afford it.  Otherwise you will have huge envy issues 

Hi Jez,

I have a similar system to yours set up, mine being; XPS-DR, NDX, 202, Hicap-DR, 200, S400 and am keen to go to the 282 when a good SH one comes along. My question is, Did  adding a Hiline to your set up make much of a difference to your system and if so what where your findings?  

There is a SH one on the market at the moment I am considering purchasing but if the gains are not that great I would be better off putting the money towards the 282 when it comes along.

Thanks 

Save for the 282 and worry about poncy wires later. 

boom posted:

Hi Jez,

I have a similar system to yours set up, mine being; XPS-DR, NDX, 202, Hicap-DR, 200, S400 and am keen to go to the 282 when a good SH one comes along. My question is, Did  adding a Hiline to your set up make much of a difference to your system and if so what where your findings?  

There is a SH one on the market at the moment I am considering purchasing but if the gains are not that great I would be better off putting the money towards the 282 when it comes along.

Thanks 

The story of my HiLine is that I arranged a home demo of that and a HiCap with the intention of buying one or the other. The short answer is that I had to have both as there was no way I could hand either back in the knowledge I was missing some significant SQ. The HiLine brought much more detail and clarity to the music by simply letting loads more music through to the pre-amp. A very worthwhile upgrade.

I wouldn't want a 282 knowing that I wasn't feeding it the best possible input but you could certainly acquire a HiLine now and enjoy the benefits with your 202.

I know you didn't ask, but consider a 52/SC. It would be a quantum leap better than 282/SC2, much less 282/HC2.

Interesting l had a 52/PS/250 in the 90's sometimes sounded great. someone l know is selling these.

l remember the volume was hard to control

Jez R Oakley posted:

Getting the upgrade bug again. My last was to add an XPS2 to my (original) CDX2 and this brought amazing improvements, even through my 'meagre' 202.

System:

• CDX2 + XPS2
• Hi-Line
• 202 + HiCap2 + NAPSC
• 200
• PMC DB1+

 

Popular wisdom on this forum suggest that my (comparatively) weak link is the 202, even though it has all the PS upgrades.

Out of my next upgrade I want to hear more detail, and PRaT out of my music, especially out of guitar and rhythm sections in the recordings. I don't particularly care for huge bass. The 202 sounds good but it's got to be significantly masking the source I would think, surely?

So, to what extent is moving to 282 + HiCap2 + NAPSC going to deliver on my anticipated musical enjoyment in terms of the tangible differences in characteristics between the 202 and 282? I'm already convinced the 282 will be better but how so?

It's either the 282 or keep my credit card at a safe distance!

A little late to the party, my System is similar to yours.

Cdx2>282>HCDR>3 x 250.2>Briks

Didn't have the option to listen or Home demo, took the Advice of the Forum!

Not being born with a Silver Spoon, all Pre-loved Naim gear.

However, if I could reload, and shoot again, the SC would accompany the 282.

Late 2014, the Forum suggested the HCDR narrowed the gap, such that the difference would be minute.

2016 highly respected members points out the Advantages the SC has over the HCDR.

Mind you, in that two year span, those respected members have moved on to 252/552 territory!

So my advice in your position:

Patience!

List your HC/Napsc/202 as an package Deal!

When you get a bite, Pre-loved 282 & SC!

10 years from now, you're are still rocking!

Xps DR>Cdx2>282>SCDR>250DR>PMC

Of course, I don't have any hands on experience.

JMHO

Allante93!

JRHardee posted:

I know you didn't ask, but consider a 52/SC. It would be a quantum leap better than 282/SC2, much less 282/HC2.

Well that's put the cat out amongst the pigeons! Very interesting thought. How does the olive gear run with the new technology? I vaguely remember reading something on this forum motioning it wasn't great with the new streaming technology. Does anybody have any experience of this synergy?  

The speculation can all end soon because I've just picked up an ex demo 282. A 2015 build that only got delivered to the shop in October 2015 (based on the shipping label on the box) so not very old at all.

(still much less expensive than buying sports cars)

When looking to replace my 32.5/hicap 2, I auditioned the 282/SCDR, 252/SCDR and 52/SC. Of the 3, I ended up with the 52 on sonic grounds. Sources include Naim CDS3/555PS and a turntable.

Others prefer the 252/SCDR, which I understand too.

I don't share the view that olive or CB kit can't work with digital sources. With equipment of the calibre of the 52, it's a ridiculous assertion.

Hope this helps, FT

I hope you like beans on toast, because now you really need to get that old Hicap serviced, and while they're at it, they might as well DR it too....

ChrisSU posted:

I hope you like beans on toast, because now you really need to get that old Hicap serviced, and while they're at it, they might as well DR it too....

Supermarket 'value' beans at that!! Something tells me I'll be able to live with the current HiCap for a bit longer until the next upgrade bug hits. Based on the forum feedback, a 282 + HiCap DR should be another exciting leap forward.

Allante93 posted:

Jez R Oakley posted:

Getting the upgrade bug again. My last was to add an XPS2 to my (original) CDX2 and this brought amazing improvements, even through my 'meagre' 202.

System:

• CDX2 + XPS2
• Hi-Line
• 202 + HiCap2 + NAPSC
• 200
• PMC DB1+

 

Popular wisdom on this forum suggest that my (comparatively) weak link is the 202, even though it has all the PS upgrades.

Out of my next upgrade I want to hear more detail, and PRaT out of my music, especially out of guitar and rhythm sections in the recordings. I don't particularly care for huge bass. The 202 sounds good but it's got to be significantly masking the source I would think, surely?

So, to what extent is moving to 282 + HiCap2 + NAPSC going to deliver on my anticipated musical enjoyment in terms of the tangible differences in characteristics between the 202 and 282? I'm already convinced the 282 will be better but how so?

It's either the 282 or keep my credit card at a safe distance!

A little late to the party, .......

So my advice in your position:

Patience!

List your HC/Napsc/202 as an package Deal!

When you get a bite, Pre-loved 282 & SC!

10 years from now, you're are still rocking!

Xps DR>Cdx2>282>SCDR>250DR>PMC

Of course, I don't have any hands on experience.

JMHO

Allante93!

 

 

"The speculation can all end soon because I've just picked up an ex demo 282. A 2015 build that only got delivered to the shop in October 2015 "

Smart Cookie!

Congratulations!

Don't Forget, Patience!!!!!

Allante93!

If you want to get a supercap, go for the nac 252

FenderStratman52 posted:

... l am looking at a 282 soon but somehow this 202/200 is outstanding. l have great front ends and speakers that l don't want to upgrade them yet

I agree, the 202 is an  outstanding pre but your comments earlier about the CDX2 probably reflect the fact IMHO that the CDX2 and 202 are not the best match.

The CD5X is better matched to the 202 and the CDX2 better matched to the 282 in my experience. 

Saxophones for example need to have a little flesh to their tone. That seemed to be lost with the CDX2 through the 202 ... not so much "hide behind the sofa" but a little too dry for me to fully appreciate.

Stick with the 202 / 200 if you can, with your sources, nor does it need a napsc from my experience. 

Jez R Oakley posted:

Getting the upgrade bug again. My last was to add an XPS2 to my (original) CDX2 and this brought amazing improvements, even through my 'meagre' 202.

System:

• CDX2 + XPS2
• Hi-Line
• 202 + HiCap2 + NAPSC
• 200
• PMC DB1+

 

Popular wisdom on this forum suggest that my (comparatively) weak link is the 202, even though it has all the PS upgrades.

Out of my next upgrade I want to hear more detail, and PRaT out of my music, especially out of guitar and rhythm sections in the recordings. I don't particularly care for huge bass. The 202 sounds good but it's got to be significantly masking the source I would think, surely?

So, to what extent is moving to 282 + HiCap2 + NAPSC going to deliver on my anticipated musical enjoyment in terms of the tangible differences in characteristics between the 202 and 282? I'm already convinced the 282 will be better but how so?

It's either the 282 or keep my credit card at a safe distance!

i have an nac 82 a lot cheaper second hand than a 282 could be a contender

Jez R Oakley posted:

The speculation can all end soon because I've just picked up an ex demo 282. A 2015 build that only got delivered to the shop in October 2015 (based on the shipping label on the box) so not very old at all.

(still much less expensive than buying sports cars)