Explaining the compromises of on-wall speaker design (to your mum)

Posted by: Alonso on 28 May 2017

I was a big surprised to learn that  ATC will soon offer on-wall loudspeakers, based on their 'classic' series (I am no sure if that's what they're called) but you know, the SCM11/19/40. The new on-walls will be the HTS7, HTS11 and HTS40.

https://www.whathifi.com/news/...lassic-floorstanders

So, maybe someone who actually knows about speaker design, could explain what are the major 'compromises' of on-wall speakers? Of course, the major advantage is space utilisation/concealment, but as every design, there are a series of compromises (the stuff marketing blurbs never mention). ATC argue that they've tweaked/re-designd the cross-over to make it sound best for this application, which does not mean that they have over-come all major compromises of this design, they've just optimised it within the limitations of this configuration.

So,  from a purely audiophile stand-point, what is lost in designs of this type?

Alonso

Posted on: 28 May 2017 by cheeselet

Imaging I would imagine.

The reason that most speakers are designed to sit further into the room is to give some depth to the soundstage. 

Then there are those that think of 3d imaging as just hifi tosh and those that like their speakers ' out of the way '.

It takes all sorts and ATC are closing a gap in the ... er room! ... or market,  I should say!

Nothing wrong with that, if it's your thing.

Posted on: 28 May 2017 by NFG

How many bands have you listened to playing with their backs against a wall?

That said, I hope its a success, ATC are a very good brand.

N

Posted on: 28 May 2017 by Allante93
Alonso posted:

I was a big surprised to learn that  ATC will soon offer on-wall loudspeakers, based on their 'classic' series (I am no sure if that's what they're called) but you know, the SCM11/19/40. The new on-walls will be the HTS7, HTS11 and HTS40.

https://www.whathifi.com/news/...lassic-floorstanders

So, maybe someone who actually knows about speaker design, could explain what are the major 'compromises' of on-wall speakers? Of course, the major advantage is space utilisation/concealment, but as every design, there are a series of compromises (the stuff marketing blurbs never mention). ATC argue that they've tweaked/re-designd the cross-over to make it sound best for this application, which does not mean that they have over-come all major compromises of this design, they've just optimised it within the limitations of this configuration.

So,  from a purely audiophile stand-point, what is lost in designs of this type?

Alonso

One thing for sure, I don't know much about speaker design. However, I do know what sounds good, sometimes I think I got carried away with my Round Room, my original intentions was HDTV Family room.  I have never owned an HDTV, first it was the 60Hz, then the 120 Hz, when the 240 Hz came out bam, that was it.  Got tired and decided to go Plasma, then, you guessed OLED, which I'm waiting for the price to drop! 

Anyhow MM>Airport Extreme>Airport Express>Emotiva Dac 1>Primare Pre 30> Arcam PF1 mono Blocks> Vienna Acoustics Baby Grands. 

Well to the point, I was always told, best to match the Timbre! 

Hence, Vienna Acoustics all the way around. I have been listening to these speakers the last 6 years, Great Speakers, the Wall mounted speakers are sleek, and Amazing! 

I think they are called the Grand Waltz, Check them out if Can!  Not Bad at All.  Maybe one day, I will get a TV! 

The last time I kicked a TV it was a 36 inch picture Tube, and in a small Room it wasn't Bad!  

Emotiva UMC 1> JVC Blue Ray> Vienna Accoustics with the Linn Sizmick Wow, Thought I was at the Theater!

Just finished off the 18 year! 

Holliday Weekend! 

Allante92! 

Posted on: 29 May 2017 by Claus-Thoegersen
NFG posted:

How many bands have you listened to playing with their backs against a wall?

That said, I hope its a success, ATC are a very good brand.

Quite a few, in a small room the size of a big living room.

Claus