Web Radio; BBC3 hidef trial. proms

Posted by: Simon-in-Suffolk on 15 August 2011

I selected the BBC radio 3 proms on my NDX on the hidef trial this evening - Swan Lake. My istream says 57kbs AAC, but I don't believe, as the replay is incredible through my NDAC. Does anyone know what it really is? Or is the Nstream telling the truth?
Simon
Posted on: 15 August 2011 by Frank E

On my Uniitiqute:

Naim's Choice> Radio3 HiDefTest

 

"No Station

PressList to Select"

 

Posted on: 15 August 2011 by Simon-in-Suffolk
Frank that strange, I went to Naim's Choice and then BBCR3 Hidef Test. It's playing now, but it's concert/ballet interval
Simon
Posted on: 15 August 2011 by CSAS bite
My NDX states 57 also and I agree, it cannot be correct. Al.
Posted on: 16 August 2011 by KRM
Radio Paradise 320k also says 57 and it's...er...320. I think Naim admitted this was wrong when they first introduced Naim's Choice. At the time, it was the reason given for the delay after the press releases had claimed it was live. I had assumed it would be fixed fairly quickly.

Keith
Posted on: 16 August 2011 by Frank E

Do you know the IP address : port and codec? I'll try and add it on the add station form.

Posted on: 16 August 2011 by Simon-in-Suffolk
Hi, well you can nslookup this
http://bbcmedia.ic.llnwd.net/stream/bbcm
And see what ip address it returns.
Simon
Posted on: 16 August 2011 by Frank E

192 -320AAC normally, 330 during the proms broadcasts by someone's tuner on a thread on another forum. Fell back to 320 when the proms finished.

Posted on: 16 August 2011 by likesmusic

There's a description of the BBC R3 proms feed here:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbc...h_quality_audio.html

 

if anyone's interested. 

Posted on: 16 August 2011 by Simon-in-Suffolk
Thanks for the info, that explains why it sounds so good...
Simon
Posted on: 16 August 2011 by Frank E

Still can't find it. No IPs that resolve to BBC or any other media co in netstat.

Would my Qute being on DHCP be an issue. I think I read on one of the my posts I've read about the higher def streams that a static IP was needed.

 

I'd have listened to it on FM but my aerial went from vertically polarised to horizontally polarised a few months ago.

Posted on: 16 August 2011 by Simon-in-Suffolk
Frank, can you get any web radio? DHCP should make no differene at all, as long as your DHCP server is set up to provide the address of your ADSL router as the default gateway. Mind you if this was wrong you would not be able to see the Internet for any device that got the addresses from your DHCP server.
If your point a web browser at your NDX or Qute address you see all the assigned network details on the browser screen to confirm.
Simon
Posted on: 16 August 2011 by Frank E

Yes I get iRadio.I stream some of the 320 stations quite a bit...AVRO, Deep Vibes and others with no problem peak or off peak.

The only iRadio problems I have are 

BBCR3 HiDef Test, BBCR4 HiDef Test fault mode stated above

 

Linn stations  I'lll see how it goes after ADSL2+ provisioning order fulfilment, which includes a new gateway. 

 

 

Posted on: 16 August 2011 by Steeve

Frank/Simon, 

I have both an NDX and a Uniti and have noticed the same problem on the Uniti but not on the NDX. They are however in different locations and therefore using different networks. 

Interestingly, there is also an extra item on the Uniti's initial iRadio menu which is not on the NDX called "Test Naim's Choice" on which the HiDef Radios 3 and 4 equally don't work. 

It would be good to understand why this is.

Steeve 

Posted on: 16 August 2011 by Simon-in-Suffolk
Steven, interesting, it sounds like the Uniti has outdated definitions for R3 and R4 Hidef channels. The URL I notice is uniually long for the stations.
Simon
Posted on: 17 August 2011 by Steeve

Strange. In my naivity I would have assumed that the iRadio menus would have been the same for all the streaming products. I also assumed nothing was stored locally on the device in this respect.. How does this work and how do they get updated?

Posted on: 17 August 2011 by Frank E

From Nslookup it resolves to IP address 87.248.208.77, or 87.248.208.76 

 

From netstat (listening on Winamp, which also says the stream is aacp) the foreign address and port resolves to 87.248.208.73:80

 

netstat -a -b -n - o - v
TCP    192.168.1.64:4248      87.248.208.73:80       ESTABLISHED

 

I tried netstat yesterday when connected with winamp but the foreign address was just *.*

>portqry -n 87.248.208.73 -p TCP
IP address resolved to sc6.lon.llnw.net
 TCP port 80 (http service): LISTENING

>portqry -n 87.248.208.73 -e 8000
 TCP port 8000 (unknown service): NOT LISTENING

 

There are 10 servers though

sc1 to sc5 in range 68.142.84.82 to 86

sc6 to sc10 in range 87.248.208.73 to 77

 

I guess an TCP/IP equivalent of a hunt group

 

I've tried to add the stations using all the IP addresses above in vtuner, with AAC, MP3 without success

 

I think I will isten to something else.

Posted on: 15 September 2011 by Michael Chare

I have been trying to get BBCR3 Hidef Test and BBCR4 Hidef Test via iRadio Naim's Choice but without success.

 

When I select these chanels my Qute gives 'No Station Press List to Select'.

 

My Uniti just returns to the list. 

 

Other Naim's Choice stations work, so I don't think that my difficulty is caused by a home network problem.

 

Does anyone have the BBC stations working now?

 

Also, does anyone know the URLs of these two stations?

 

  

Posted on: 15 September 2011 by Simon-in-Suffolk
Hi, BBC R3 hidef trial is working right now. The URL is very long, and am not sure it is all displayed on the screen. I select from Naim Choice
Posted on: 15 September 2011 by Michael Chare

Thank you for your reply.  What are (or were!) you using to receive it? 

Posted on: 15 September 2011 by Simon-in-Suffolk
Michael, sorry, NDX
Simon
Posted on: 16 September 2011 by Michael Chare

Thanks.  After a bit of googling I have found a URL:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/r3_aaclca.pls

 

which appears to be a 320kbps aac stream.  I have set this up in Naim vtuner where I can play it on my PC using VLC.

 

When I select this station, my Qute just gives 'No Station....' and my Uniti refuses to play it.

 

However if I had the station to the Frontier Silicon portal for my Roberts 83i radio, this radio plays the station perfectly!

Posted on: 16 September 2011 by Sloop John B

I've the same problem, always presumed it was because I don't have a UK IP address.

 

 

SJB

Posted on: 16 September 2011 by Michael Chare

Most BBC radio is available outside the UK.  The link I gave came from a web site much used by foreigners!

 

Try the link on a PC using VLC - though I don't know if Naim Choices actually uses that URL. 

Posted on: 16 September 2011 by Sloop John B

Just had a thought and tried to connect to the HiDef chanels using the front panel and remote rather than the n-stream, have you tried this?

 

it just worked for me.

 

having said that it then connected using n-stream so i don't know whether the n-stream would have worked first of.

 

May be worth a try!

 

 

SJB

Posted on: 16 September 2011 by Michael Chare
Originally Posted by Sloop John B:

I've the same problem, always presumed it was because I don't have a UK IP address.

 

 

SJB

After contacting Naim Support, I am please to say that I am now listening to BBC Radio 3 Hi Def using my Qute.