Musical profile of "naimees"

Hardly.  I'm what you might call an older owner.  My tastes (and CD/LP/DVD/Tape collection) range the whole gamut from early opera, through pop, C&W, to heavy thrash metal, and it was ME who introduced my kids to metal/heavy rock etc.  Still a little annoyed that we were on holiday when AC/DC had their last tour, and am debating whether I can persuade SWMBO would enjoy Alison Krauss in Birmingham in November.

I regard my Naim equipment as very tolerant of whatever sort of music I play on it, and always sounds better than most (all?) other gear. 

Phage (great name) Voyager fan?

We are back to genres and what anyone thinks fits in to them.

There seems a bit of every thing here, and like Dungassin says I'm an older member too, my music ranges much the same too, plus some electronica, lots of prog but very little classical and jazz, no (c)rap, punk, dance though.

Not sure what you call hard rock/metal though, AC/DC, Metallica, Purple Zep are in my collection and seen here, is that what you mean?

Or perhaps you could name some acts, and see what re-action you get?

I don't subscribe to the NAIM does/doesn't do ...............(insert genre) school of thought, it seems to play all music I throw at it , OK for me.

BigH

Not exactly, although phage is an abbreviation of bacteriophage, a virus infecting bacterias. What I was after was not to criticize anybody's musical taste. It was simply an observation that extreme and somewhat underground metal (death, black etc.) and stoner (rock/metal) as well are almost absent from the fellow members play lists. I do think Metallica is metal and Deep Purple hard rock, they are just so obvious choices and expected to pop out eventually in every thread dealing with the subject.

Usually in such play lists they emerge a bit more often and that lead me to speculate about the reason. I just find it interesting since in Finland Naim is often (but definitively not always) associated with rhythmic (rock, punk, metal etc.) musical taste.

I don't think it is valid to use what members of a forum post to extrapolate what all naim owners listen too...

No, you're absolutely right, but (there's always but...)

1) originally I was referring to forum users and

2) according to gaussian distribution there should have been more metal

I'm just curious does this reflect something or is it just a coincidence. Maybe people who listen to metal have better things to do that post a forum 

I enjoy a really wide genre of music, but play whatever my mood feels like at the time.  I also like trying new material and do use this forum for guidance on new purchases.  Whilst I am in the over 50 brigade, I still enjoy winding up my music to reasonably high volume.  My teenager sons think I am going deaf, but I see them secretly enjoying my system when I wind it out a bit.

A good Naim system is after all - all about the music first.

Regards

Hutch

I wonder what type of analysis you have in mind? If the population are the people on this forum, and the value is the type of music, such an analysis could say something about probabilities that certain music is listened to. Assuming the forum is representative of all music listeners everywhere (and sufficiently large to assume normality), then it is safe to assume that if the forum does not listen to metal, nobody listens to metal... 

EJ

Well I'm not an expert in statistics (although I know something about it) but I think if you make such assumption that this forum represents the music listeners in general you've misinterpret the data and also missed my original tongue-in cheek observation.

I try to be more specific. There are more than 10 000 replies in the thread. I don't know how many people have answered so the true n remains uncertain. I did not check every answer through either (but quite a lot anyway) so my "observation" is not accurate. Still one can assume few things. Firstly, customers how buy Naim gears represent music lovers in general. Music lovers in general listen to all kind of music, including metal and now the biggest and probably most error prone assumption: people who fit to earlier descriptions do join to this forum and also post regularly what they are listening to. When all of these conditions are met one can assume that there should be more hard rock and metal albums included. 

This was not supposed to be such serious analysis, but just to raise some discussion. 

Just to keep you going, I plan to listen to some Rammstein, Haydn and Elvis this afternoon on my Active Olive System rather than the Black AV one - unless I develop a sudden yen for something else!  All will be played LOUD - the virtue of a detached house. 

Ah, a youngster.  I'm "well into my 60s". 

Across the eons of time,their leader BABYATOLLAH COMEDOWNIE

travelled through the seven heavens to collect the majestic feelings of the

INNER SILENCE OF EMPTY SPACE.

Guided by fortune,his journey ended at the hills of beverly,from whence

he spread his warmth and beauty with never-ending strength to all the

creatures of the dark.

ROCKO J.FONZO sought-out the master and in the end they beheld the

final step BETWEEN NOTHINGNESS AND ENTERTAINMENT!

OK, now we are getting somewhere. One thing I had in mind was income issues in addition to age. Naims are more expensive than average stereo equipments but let's not generalize too much. Age might be one thing indeed. Metal was practically born in early Eighties and extreme metal during the Nineties. Younger people listened to them from the beginning and they share the same love toward those bands as does older folks toward The Beatles, Rolling Stones or even Led Zeppelin. I strongly believe this might be one reason.

Like I said earlier Naim in Finland is generally appreciated as being able to reproduce well rhythmic music and hence most popular among music lovers who like such music. One must bear in mind also that Naim is very popular in UK and more likely bought by people with diverse musical taste.

I think you will find age and having Naim systems has nothing to do with it.

Loads on here have Rock/heavey rock/Prog rock/metal albums.

Most dont class thrash or death metal as music like you people in Findland seem to do.

You have some very sick bands and band members over their that have killed eachother over the years.

If music is good? most of us on here will give it a try .

You dont see many Reggae bands posted other than the standard Bob Marley stuff.

It does not mean its not being played by forum members .

They just dont post about it.

Stu

Age might not necessary be a factor but generation is likely to be. One tend to like most the music which one grew up with. Thus we have to still wait a couple of years before people being teenagers in latter part of the ´80 and early ´90 hit 40 years and start posting cover art of the bands like Stone and Dimmu Borgir...

This is the most thrash metal vinyl album i have.

I like MotorheadLOADS

Nothing to do with my age ...  I'm just not into metal that much.

There may be a similar distribition of metal listeners in the naim user community as the general music listening community. I'm not sure though that metal is that popular among the general poulation so I woudln't expect to see that many people posting what metal tracks they have just listened to. 

Stu, no offense but could you do your homework. The killings you're referring to happened in Norway during the Nineties. I'm not aware that any metal music related killings would have happened in Finland. Besides, those unfortunate incidences were related to church burnings and satanism, things only a few idiots were involved to. If I remember correctly the killing you're referring was related to a competition between two bands.

On the other hand I have  a few friend who are professional musicians in classical orchestra and they both share the same view about metal music: both metal and classical music share many elements like use of harmonies. They both appreciate bands like Metallica for the complexity and rhythmic structure of the their music. I can't believe that nowadays there are still people who think metal is noise pollution we should have passed that stage long time ago. It is simply whether you're into it or not. Nothing more nothing less.

Opeth is great and classy band, although it is definitively not thrash metal.

Sorry about the Findland/Norway thing.

Can you list 20 bands you class as metal bands please?

Stu, here is something. I chose well known acts and almost all are pioneering within the "genre" (which belongs to what can be naturally debated endlessly)

Thrash metal:

- Megadeth

- (early) Metallica They did some albums that are more hard rock/blues than thrash

- Slayer

- Testament

Death metal

- Death

- Bolt Thrower

- Arch Enemy

- Morbid Angel

Black Metal

- Enslaved

- Emperor

- Immortal

- Dimmu Borgir

Power metal

- Blind Guardian

- HammerFall

- Kamelot

- Sabaton

Heavy Metal

- Iron Maiden

- Judas Priest

- Manowar

- Dio

Hope this helps.

I listen to none of the above. I've been listening all night to Jimi Hendrix. Last night it was the entire new Live at Leeds set, tomorrow perhaps Kate and Anna McGarrigle followed by some Loudon Wainwright. All sorts including Gilbert and Sullivan, Bruce Springsteen, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath and above all Led Zeppelin. And Mozart of course.

Without being a specialist, I can see there are many mistakes in the list: Iron is not a heavy metal. And you forgot plutonium, uranium and many others.

Ask any reasonable expert about this and he will tell you the same thing: do not introduce heavy metals in your house as it is dangerous for your health.

Thank you to share your interest for physics, though. It is good to see that young people are still interested in those areas.

Hi Osprey

I don't think that age is significant, I am 46 and grew up in the punk era which at the time, I loved. I now see it for what it is and although some bands have (musically) stood the test of time, a specific genre of music is limiting mentally. As I grew, so did my tastes in music, I now listen to most genres of music including rap ( rage against the machine), some classical, Folk, all variations of metal/rock, electronica, blues, and people like Tom Waits, Timber Timbre, Decemberists,etc, don't know what genre they fall into, now that may be an age thing. Good music is good music regardless of what camp it falls in to and it is the most amazing experience exploring new music and old (that may have passed you by first time around). I have friends who are stuck in their respective era/genre and they very rarely listen to music because of repetition. This is why I don't think it is age, I feel that it is more a deterioration in imagination.

Regards

Chimp