Musical profile of "naimees"

Hi Chimp,

Ok the age might not be significant in the way I first suggested. However, it might be that the horizon (also concerning music) will widen when time passes (i.e. when we age) and still again age does matter. I grew up also during punk era and have tender feelings towards the bands like Buzzcocks, Clash, Ramones, Undertones etc. I still listen to the records of those every now and then and don’t mind posting it here when I do. Of course now it is more for the feeling than the nuances in music i must admit.

Regards

Hi Osprey

Please forgive me if I sounded negative about punk, I feel the same way hence the quote " some bands have stood the test of time". The bands that you listen to are pretty much what I listen to in that genre with the additions of the Stranglers, New York Dolls, Iggy and the Stooges, MC5 etc, again it is because they had something to give that is still worth hearing today, a lot of punk bands just jumped on the bandwagon, I listened to them then, can't listen to them now, not even for nostalgic purposes.

Regards

Chimp

Osprey

Did you get a chance to see any of the bands mentioned first time around?

I couldn't as my location was John o groats during that period and no band travelled up my way, Boo Hoo.

Since moving to London, I get the chance to see The Stanglers once a year, Killing Joke every opportunity I can, The Cardiacs once a year before Tim Smith had a heart attack, and have seen the buzzcocks a couple of times too, loved every minute of it. Meethinks I digresseth too much.

Chimp

The names of these metal bands are hilarious. 'Sabaton' is a particular favourite as it could easily also be a Korean car manufacturer in its manufactured banality.

Hi Chimp,

It seems that we share same kind of history at least partly.  I lived at that time in the middle of nowhere so unfortunately I did not have any chance to see any of these bands first time around.  Have seen Ramones and Iggy Pop in late ´80 couple of times and Buzzcocks early ´90 tough. Since then it has been only records.

Regards   

Hi GraemeH

A Sabaton is a medieval foot protector consisting of chain mail upper and solid toe protectors, there being the heavy metal conitation.

Hi Osprey

Maybe you can explain what the Clash had/has. I have never understood why people like them so much, girlfriend included, it just leaves me cold and no one has been able to explain why they think the Clash are so good.

Regards

chimp

Has anybody heard any of Ramesses back catalogue?

I was also enjoying the imaginative names.

Apparently a sabaton is the foot covering on a suit of armour - The modern day equivalent, in warfare terms, would be an old boot, so I suppose Sabaton sounds better

 (EDIT: Sorry Chimp, you posted while I was replying!)

But seriously, I would have thought that the question of this particular "genre" would be more concerning the fact that it is an "intensive" music and would have a much lesser appeal to the "general population" as a whole - Sort of a "niche market" if you will - Therefore it will always have a minority representation in the context of this thread.

(Much like if one posed the same question about an intensive, or very strong, tasting food.........)

I would have thought that the main exception, to the above, would be with the generation that grew up with the evolution of that type of music. - Back to the age "theory"

Does that make any sense!?

I play a lot of heavy music and my naim gear loves it, it ranges from led zep, black sabbath, deep purple through to some cheese in the form of cindarella, motley crue, on to faith no more, paradise lost, alice in chains, soundgarden, deftones, tool, a perfect circle, Ramesses, it's not all I listen to but when the mood takes me, nothing compares.

Much like if one posed the same question about an intensive, or very strong, tasting food.........)

ANCHOVIES. YEUCH!

Hi Chimp,

For me what is fascinating about Clash is the idea how the attitude and sound of punk (or new wave) was combined with other styles like reggae/ska and even hint of funk or pop. The other aspect is the lyrics. I do not necessary agree everything that is said and I do not even claim that I understand them all or fully but still, well they mean something. However, I get it if someone does not share the same enthusiasm because they find Clash too gloomy (or due to some other reason).

Regards

Post-Mortem's 'Ablation of the Heart'.....what an album!

o/ Great band and from UK.

What comes to the stupid names one should bear in mind that many metal bands are established then the members are young and names reflect that - what kids think would be cool at that age. I must say that some of the punk band names are not the brightest ones either and yet their music is good. I personally hope this thread won't turn in to argue about whether some genre is music or not. I think we can accept they all are shapes music can take and in the end it's about that appeals to you in personal level. Let's respect that.

My original observation seems to be somewhat correct and we can say at least that metal is not the mainstream music the fellow writers tend to listen to (with the few exceptions of course). Do test sometimes what kind of rhythmic miracles your black boxes with green lights really are.

Phage,

Try this album.

Its Opeth at there Prog/rock best,

Without the thrash screaming vocals.

Steven Wilson from Porcupine Tree/no-man/Blackfield produced it.

Its so mellow and nice you may not like it.

It shows what a great band they are, without the need for all the growling vocals.

There new album out soon  is in the same vain.

Stu

Stu, that is one of my favorites (I own most of them if not all). It's funny how I managed to get the metal-only stamp to my forehead since I do listen to lot of various stuff including classical music. Commercial pop, on the other hand, is something I don't like.

Hi (bacterio)Phage from a then biologist,

a) Yes, as I'm growing older I'm not that angry anymore. More realistically I forget to listening to metal music in order to calm down. Or I don't tell anyone.

b) Possibly, but I doubt it. We quite like metal where I live.

c) Mmmh... Well, I think the problem is more that I still have neighbours... But as my kit is not really 'bass heavy', that could be important too. it doesn't sound like a metal live performance for sure, but it doesn't bother me.

d) We do influence each other when posting to the 'What are you listening right now' threads, Shirley.

I do like some metal, and I do enjoy listening sometimes to some exotic bands like Enslaved, Ulver, Mayhem, My Dying Bride, Borknagar, Finntroll, Atheist, Cynic, Mekong Delta, Mastodon, or even indus bands like Ministry, Front 242, etc, or jazzy weirdos like Naked City or Painkiller.

But...

I do not do it very often;

When I listen to theses guys I'm usually not quietly sitting while posting on the forum;

I do not post here very often for it costs me too much money trying to keep up with all the music I don't know yet.

Not sure it can help you with  your statistics...

ATB

Maurice

Whats classed as Goth?

A possible answer ?

http://www.allmusic.com/explor...le/goth-metal-d11955

Its all a metal mess if you ask me.?

Its like house music,You started with house then it went.Out house/shithouse/trance house and the list just went on and on ,Then you got drum and base/dub/grime and another shed load of names for almost the same thing?

My son and daughter can tell the diff.

The one that really gets me is R&B?? It means and sounds nothing like the R&B I grew up with in the 60s &70s

Stu.

Amen brother.

Here is something that might help figuring out the different genres of metal. Pick your favorites or hate 'em all, it's a free world!

http://mapofmetal.com/

I'm 44. Not old, not young. Just right.

Regular vistors to my speakers certainly include "rock" in all it's guises e.g. -

The Mint Chicks

NIN

Lightning Bolt

Black Keys

The Dead Weather

Queens of the Stone Age

World Domination Enterprises (brilliant but forgotten 1980's UK band)

The current style of Euro Rock/Metal I don't get however....

+1

Phage

The groups you mentioned are unknown territory for me. I stopped buying rock records years ago. The most recent rock records I own are from “Joy Division” and “Wall of Voodoo”. I listen sometimes to my old rock records, but mostly to western classical music (from all periods), classical music from Asia, and some jazz (Monk, Rollins, Coltrane, Braxton, Zorn,).

It is good for NAIM to have customers with a wide variety of musical tastes.