Musical profile of "naimees"

Posted by: Phage on 20 August 2011

I spend some time checking through "what are you listening to" -thread and although selection is large hard rock/metal is almost absent. Does that reflect a) perhaps older average age of the fellow forum writers b) main nationality of the fellow writers (although UK is a source of so many great hard rock / metal acts, they aren't that popular or mainstream) c) better suitability of Naim gears for "less heavy" music (this I don't personally believe at all) d) just a coincidence that every poster share similar taste of music?

Posted on: 26 August 2011 by Guido Fawkes
Originally Posted by Phage:

Stu, here is something. I chose well known acts and almost all are pioneering within the "genre" (which belongs to what can be naturally debated endlessly)

 

Thrash metal:

- Megadeth

- (early) Metallica They did some albums that are more hard rock/blues than thrash

- Slayer

- Testament

 

Death metal

- Death

- Bolt Thrower

- Arch Enemy

- Morbid Angel

 

Black Metal

- Enslaved

- Emperor

- Immortal

- Dimmu Borgir

 

Power metal

- Blind Guardian

- HammerFall

- Kamelot

- Sabaton

 

Heavy Metal

- Iron Maiden

- Judas Priest

- Manowar

- Dio

 

Hope this helps.

Phage 

 

I was brought up Purple, Rainbow, Sabbath, Zeppelin, Blue Oyster Cult and others from Heavy Metal Thunder to Heavy Metal Kids; for Iron Butterfly to Iron Maiden. 

 

I like a lot of Metal: some good bands above - Cathedral are my favourite band within the genre: Pysch Doom Metal; I'm guessing Napalm Death don't count, but if Grindcore is in then they are worthy of mention. Not keen on the Thrash Metal bands, but the Symphonic Power Metal band Nightwish are superb. And of course, I like Maiden I think I have every record they have released. 

 

I can't accept bands like Mayhem or Burzum though for obvious reasons, but the Swedish band Entombed are reasonable.

 

All the best, Guy 

Posted on: 27 August 2011 by Gale 401

Guy,

I saw the Heavy Metal Kids at Wembley pool in the 70s.

They were the warm up band for Alice Coopers WTMN  show.

The late Gary Holton from Auf wiedersehen pet .

was the front man and came on in turned down welly boots.

Stu

Posted on: 27 August 2011 by Mike-B

R&B?? It means and sounds nothing like the R&B I grew up with in the 60s &70s

Amen +2

 

I consider myself privileged to have been around for the whole of 1960's for the blues & the emerging progressive rock bands. Then the growth & development of jazz sporned from the likes of Ronnie Scott & the springboard of his club.

I travelled for work all over UK & got to see many bands at places all over the place, but mostly home counties & London.  Rarely a week went by without one of 100-Club, Marquee, Klooks Kleek, Middle Earth (Roundhouse) the west of London places, Richmond, Eel Pie & the "new" full weekend gigs like Windsor Jazz and Blues Festival.

 

Names too many to mention, but those I saw and/or was most influenced by:

Clapton, Cream, Nice, Peter Green (& friends) Hendrix, Savoy Brown, Ten Years After,  

numbers of the old US bluesmen

Yardbirds, Beck, Mayall, Faces, Free, Animals, Stones

 

 

 

 

 

 

Posted on: 27 August 2011 by Frank E
Originally Posted by Gale 401:

Whats classed as Goth?

Alien Sex Fiend; Bauhaus; Christian Death; Fields of The Nephilim; Flesh For Lulu; Getting the Fear / Into Circle; Gene Loves Jezebel; Ghost Dance; Killing Joke; March Violets; Play Dead; Rose of Avalanche; Rosetta Stone; Salvation; Siousxie and The Banshees; Sins of The Flesh; Skeletal Family; Southern Death Cult; The Cure; The Damned; The Mission; The Sisterhood; The Sisters of Mercy; The Virgin Prunes, Xmal Deutschland.

Other bands were associated with the goth scene, but couldn’t be described as dark in any sense All About Eve, Balaam and the Angel, Batfish, Claytown Troupe, Pop Will Eat Itself, Underneath What, Wonder Stuff. Oh loads, I could be liting them all day.

 

In reality though most of the people I knew in the goth scene weren’t just into claasic goth, dark or ethereal music, but many styles of alt/rock, electronica, grebo, in fact anything that wasn’t throwaway factory (small f) produced supermarket shelf pap.

With the advent of decent phat synths in the late eighties the genre took on industrial influences through material from Front 242, Nitzer Ebb, Kraftwerk, and IME many of the fans went into techno, psy and goa scenes during very late eighties & early nineties. Many if not most of the psy producers and DJs I know arrived in thir new genre via the well trodden path. Labels such as Dragonfly Records led by Youth from Killing Joke had their roots in the alt/goth scenes as did some of the early underground and club party crews (naming no names). Which brings us nicely to Finland and the Suomisaundi and forest psy scenes.

‘phage, you are the first person from Finland I have come into contact with that didn’t mention Suomisaundi and ‘forest’ psy in the first ‘meeting’.

The US goth scene took on a greater metal influence, as well as industrial.

I don't get what is called goth now, which is for the large part American goth … it's metal.

Sources: field experience, most of my non electronic, non classical/baroque/romatic record collection, numerous what got you into psy/techno threads on forums I’ve been on for 10 years

 

This springs to mind:

QI XL What is Gotthic about the Goths

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KURoKfvGWak&feature=related

Posted on: 27 August 2011 by Gale 401

What a post.

And no mention of  M Manson?

So many in your list started as punk bands.

Posted on: 27 August 2011 by Gale 401
Originally Posted by Frank E:
Originally Posted by Gale 401:

Whats classed as Goth?

Alien Sex Fiend; Bauhaus; Christian Death; Fields of The Nephilim; Flesh For Lulu; Getting the Fear / Into Circle; Gene Loves Jezebel; Ghost Dance; Killing Joke; March Violets; Play Dead; Rose of Avalanche; Rosetta Stone; Salvation; Siousxie and The Banshees; Sins of The Flesh; Skeletal Family; Southern Death Cult; The Cure; The Damned; The Mission; The Sisterhood; The Sisters of Mercy; The Virgin Prunes, Xmal Deutschland.

Other bands were associated with the goth scene, but couldn’t be described as dark in any sense All About Eve, Balaam and the Angel, Batfish, Claytown Troupe, Pop Will Eat Itself, Underneath What, Wonder Stuff. Oh loads, I could be liting them all day.

 

In reality though most of the people I knew in the goth scene weren’t just into claasic goth, dark or ethereal music, but many styles of alt/rock, electronica, grebo, in fact anything that wasn’t throwaway factory (small f) produced supermarket shelf pap.

With the advent of decent phat synths in the late eighties the genre took on industrial influences through material from Front 242, Nitzer Ebb, Kraftwerk, and IME many of the fans went into techno, psy and goa scenes during very late eighties & early nineties. Many if not most of the psy producers and DJs I know arrived in thir new genre via the well trodden path. Labels such as Dragonfly Records led by Youth from Killing Joke had their roots in the alt/goth scenes as did some of the early underground and club party crews (naming no names). Which brings us nicely to Finland and the Suomisaundi and forest psy scenes.

‘phage, you are the first person from Finland I have come into contact with that didn’t mention Suomisaundi and ‘forest’ psy in the first ‘meeting’.

The US goth scene took on a greater metal influence, as well as industrial.

I don't get what is called goth now, which is for the large part American goth … it's metal.

Sources: field experience, most of my non electronic, non classical/baroque/romatic record collection, numerous what got you into psy/techno threads on forums I’ve been on for 10 years

 

This springs to mind:

QI XL What is Gotthic about the Goths

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KURoKfvGWak&feature=related


Most of that is on Wiki.

Posted on: 27 August 2011 by Frank E

Marilyn Manson, that's nu goth. As I said in the last post US (nu) goth is generally a totally different genre. It's metal.

 

Perhaps most of that is on wik., And? Perhaps check the contribuitors. You asked. If you don;t want an informed answer then don;t waste people's time by asking because I spent ages typing that. I spent much of the late eighties travelling round the country with about half of those bands 

Posted on: 27 August 2011 by Gale 401
Originally Posted by Frank E:

Marilyn Manson, that's nu goth. As I said in the last post US (nu) goth is generally a totally different genre. It's metal.

 

Perhaps most of that is on wik., And? Perhaps check the contribuitors. You asked. If you don;t want an informed answer then don;t waste people's time by asking because I spent ages typing that. I spent much of the late eighties travelling round the country with about half of those bands 


I spent alot of the mid to late 70s traveling round and in studios with a few of them.

Stu

Posted on: 27 August 2011 by Gale 401
Originally Posted by Gale 401:
Originally Posted by Frank E:

Marilyn Manson, that's nu goth. As I said in the last post US (nu) goth is generally a totally different genre. It's metal.

 

Perhaps most of that is on wik., And? Perhaps check the contribuitors. You asked. If you don;t want an informed answer then don;t waste people's time by asking because I spent ages typing that. I spent much of the late eighties travelling round the country with about half of those bands 


I spent alot of the mid to late 70s traveling round and in studios with a few of them.

Stu


I hate this HOOPLES.

There was no such thing as Goth then.

Stu

Posted on: 28 August 2011 by Simon-in-Suffolk
I smile with genres now. They have become part of the marketing machine of music to introduce this quarters  new sound. A sub genre often seems to have more relevancythan a name of a band or artist. It's probably because many smaller commercial artists don't release albums, but singles and downloads and it is easier to tag to a compilation download or album of a sub genre. Nothing wrong with it, it's just a different way of doing things.
There are the core genres however  and they are fascinating to listen through. Take for example:
Gospel- jazz- soul - Motown  - funk - hip hop -electro - old Skool - jungle - drum n bass - dub step .
It's like a family tree, and has recurring themes, and each new wave artists carves out something new but borrows from the past.
It's fascinating and one of the reasons why music is so important in my life, for all types and genres. Of course you can do the samething with types of classical, rock, punk, English folk you name it.
I get a little lost navigating through central African music, but there is a fascinating story there of  traditional/tribal, religious, colonial and modern influences, and that's the 30 000 foot view.
(sorry this wretched hoola forum software screwed up my post)
simon