Indexing all wrong

First try clearing the upnp cache and then the image cache via the app.

After that, does your nas have a re-indexing function?

This is not meant to sound like a glib response, but the likely solution is to get a proper nas, a Synology or Qnap, and load a proper upnp server. The My Cloud is rubbish, and that's being polite. 

HH, you're right.  I've had nowt but problems and the performance is dire

On HH's recommendation (amongst others) I've just moved to a QNAP nas (253a) with WD red drives. Maybe time to upgrade...

I think so. It's a while till your birthday (the same day as mine) but perhaps you can afford a summer solstice present. A Qnap 253A with a couple of WD Red drives and a copy of Asset will fix things. There are many other nases too of course, but this is what I use and it's very good. Just be aware that if you want to run Asset you are best with a Qnap. Asset won't (easily) run on Synology. Minimserver is fine on both but is a little more fiddly to set up, and lacks a few useful features that Asset has, such as latest albums. It also re-indexes better, finding new albums in a matter of seconds. 

Another endorsement of HH recommendation - Although I've never owned a WD Cloud,  I've worked with one a few times over the last year,  also to add 'tWonkey' is pants.    The solution is get a pukka NAS that has proven UPnP software.   I'm a Synology user & for me its perfect with its own Media Server UPnP software for playing .wav files,  I have used & worked on QNAP for friends & would serious consider one if I had need.  Netgear ReadyNAS is another well regarded machine,  but I've no experience of them.

I tried to reindex the WD MyCloud and it worked.  For two days. So I have taken the plunge and ordered a synology DS416.  Next week I will be getting my nerd on and configuring the new NAS to RAID5, Transferring files and trying to sort out iTunes library which is always a pain. I might not bother with the last part.

Just remember a nas is a computer nothing more nothing less. Something like a dell optiplex 390 can be picked up for peanuts and itself will happily take 4 drives. Runs as quiet as a nas, bit bigger admittedly but as its supposed to be hidden away shouldn't be an issue.

Against a nas you would be looking at substantial savings.

But they also use a lot more power than a simple NAS.

And against a NAS sufficient for audio streaming the savings aren't that great (a Synology 216se costs about £125).

Also why do you need RAID in a domestic setup?  You still need a proper backup even with a RAID - it's not an efficient use of resources.

I chose a NAS because I've video steaming to do as well as audio. On a NAS, because it's a computer, I will be able to separate out audio and video streams.  I've got some cloud storage, but the asynchronous nature of domestic broadband transfer rates prohibits synicing big files (films), so I use off site physical back ups at a relatives house as well.   All in all, a NAS is more flexible and more stable. As for RAID, if the functionality is there why not use it (loss of capacity notwithstanding).

I was sorry I used RAID on my QNAP, going against some good advice here and on PFM. 

if it's only for music I'd bypass RAID. 

.sjb

Sloop John B posted:

I was sorry I used RAID on my QNAP, going against some good advice here and on PFM. 

if it's only for music I'd bypass RAID. 

 

.sjb

There is a valid reason for RAID -  It's of use when you need high availability and just can't risk the data being unavailable even for a short period of time (i.e. the time taken to restore a backup to a different data store).  So for some other uses, yes.

Huge posted:

Sloop John B posted:

I was sorry I used RAID on my QNAP, going against some good advice here and on PFM. 

if it's only for music I'd bypass RAID. 

 

.sjb

There is a valid reason for RAID -  It's of use when you need high availability and just can't risk the data being unavailable even for a short period of time (i.e. the time taken to restore a backup to a different data store).  So for some other uses, yes.

This is what I thought I was saying when I said if it's just for music, skip RAID. 

.sjb

Hi we're in danger of having a heated agreement here!  

I agree with you, just adding a little detail as to why.

Huge posted:

But they also use a lot more power than a simple NAS.

And against a NAS sufficient for audio streaming the savings aren't that great (a Synology 216se costs about £125).

Also why do you need RAID in a domestic setup?  You still need a proper backup even with a RAID - it's not an efficient use of resources.

How have you established that? A PC will use the power it needs. Relatively modern systems will barely touch a hundy anyhow. A dell with an i3 will use the very little power indeed, plus be easily and fully upgradeable, particularly on ram a situation where NASes pre built frequently fall well short..

There is no argument to pay qnap over the odds for a bit of GUI, which is really the only difference here.

You need a more robust argument. Ease of use *could* be one of them I suppose, but power, na, I don't buy it sorry.  (you are also on a forum where the manufacturer recommends leaving the entire system on 24/7, therefore I would assume that ultimate power usage whilst a consideration is not the primary focus for any purchase.) 

Synology DS216se Power consumption:

Active 13.73W
HDD hibernation 5.12W

The only PCs that have that sort of power consumption are the lower power types of NUC style PCs (i.e. ones that don't use ATX type power supplies - in fact even laptops use more power than the DS216se and similar NASes).  Actually when running Linux, a NUC and a NAS are essentially the same thing.  (All ATX power supplies become a lot less efficient below about 50W load.)

A dell 390 uses 40 watts of power. In this day and age Huge its simply not an argument. Whats the spec of the device you mention? 256megs of ram? Really?

People here complain all the time about poor performance, slowness, problems etc. Its because a crappy nas running ram sizes from 2001 simply are not up the task of anything more than simple back up.

It frustrates me no end that people purchase these devices, its so much cheaper, even purchasing new to get a bog standard PC and stick some drives in it. jobs done. 

I dont know what the difference in the year is on 13w vs 40w, but I bet its no more than a decent bottle of whisky. For that, superior performance and upgradability.

Qnap Nas with 1.2ghz cpu / 256mb memory, streaming redbook to SBT

Streaming 24 96 hi res flac.

Memory doesn't budge whatever is streamed.

But inspite of the above, I will try streaming from my PC as you suggest, just to see if there is any difference in sound quality.

"Waiter, there's a fly in my soup!"

"Sir bought a WD NAS, enjoy your soup"

The NAS has arrived, been installed, files transferred and is up and running.  I can find music once again!!!  Thanks to everyone for help and advice.  I may be imagaining it, but I'd sware there's a improvement in sound quality too.