Muso QB

Posted by: Wairds on 16 June 2017

I have a Muso QB hooked up to a UnitiLite via TP-Link Powerline. I have noticed recently that every so often the QB drops the signal very briefly and then recovers.

Does anybody have any view on what might be causing this?

Thanks in anticipation.

Posted on: 16 June 2017 by Innocent Bystander

Checking to see if you're awake? When you don't react, maybe it'll start moving around...

Posted on: 16 June 2017 by Wairds

Thanks. But I was looking for something a bit more meaningful.

Posted on: 16 June 2017 by Adam Zielinski

TP-Link Powerline? It that internet over mains?

Another question: you cannot really connect Muso to a UnitiLite. They need a network to function. Could you please describe your network infrastructure?

Fundamentally one should be looking at something along the lines of this picture (pic courtesy of Mike B).

 

 

Posted on: 16 June 2017 by Wairds

Adam,rer.

I should have been clea

Thanks for your response. Your diagram describes my setup. I have the NAS, UnitiLite and Muso QB coming off the switch. The MUSO QB is connected to the switch by the TP-Link. The TP-Link Powerline is a method of extending the network over the mains.

Posted on: 16 June 2017 by Innocent Bystander
Wairds posted:

Thanks. But I was looking for something a bit more meaningful.

I know -sorry, but it was irresistible!  Adam's request for more info may help people offer suggestions.

Posted on: 16 June 2017 by Richard Dane

Wairds, I have moved your thread over to the Streaming Audio room, where you should get more response.  It may be useful to do a search on Ethernet over Mains devices such as the Devolo and TP-Link Powerline as there has been quite a lot posted on these in the past.  FWIW, I believe that Naim do not recommend their use.

Posted on: 16 June 2017 by hungryhalibut

Indeed. Try wiring the Qb to the switch and I bet the problem goes away. 

Posted on: 16 June 2017 by Mike-B

Ethernet over mains is not a great idea,  it pollutes mains & transmits RFI around your neighbourhood.   They also don't carry data streams that well & in your case with Muso it sounds like it might be buffering  (the data stream can't keep up).    Also worth knowing that OfCom is considering prosecuting power line adapters that can be proven to cause undue interference.

If you can't run ethernet which is far & away the best option,  then 2nd choice IMO is wireless;  with wireless extenders & other technology it can work very well.  The forum has a few wireless experts that are better able to advise than me.   I am wirelessless  

Posted on: 16 June 2017 by Adam Zielinski
Wairds posted:

Adam,rer.

I should have been clea

Thanks for your response. Your diagram describes my setup. I have the NAS, UnitiLite and Muso QB coming off the switch. The MUSO QB is connected to the switch by the TP-Link. The TP-Link Powerline is a method of extending the network over the mains.

As the esteemed forum members have advised - please try hard-wiring your Muso directly to the switch. I do realise this may not be practical but it's an essential test that needs to be performed in order to eliminate faults with the Muso or the switch.

Posted on: 16 June 2017 by Klout10

Don't you have the possibility co connect the Qb via WiFi?

Posted on: 16 June 2017 by Wairds

Thank you all for your considered responses.

Whilst I recognise hard wiring the QB direct by Ethernet would be ideal I regret that is not an option currently open to me. I believed using the Powerline adapter the next best option. However from your responses I appear to be mistaken.

I am going to connect it via WiFi and see if that is an improvement.

Thank you all once again.

Posted on: 16 June 2017 by Mike-B
Wairds posted:

I am going to connect it via WiFi and see if that is an improvement.

To get the best out of wireless & especially if you have walls & distance between hub & Qb,  have a look at wireless extenders,  Ubiquiti Unifi seem to be highly rated.   

Posted on: 18 June 2017 by ChrisSU

When I tried WiFi on a Naim streamer it was pretty much unusable. A solution that worked well for me was to disable the WiFi on the streamer, and connect an Apple Airport Express with a short Ethernet cable, and let that handle the wireless side. That worked pretty reliably, with only the occasional dropout, until I got round to doing the job properly and putting a fully wired network in place.