Sale on Naim Mu-so - Does this mean that new models are on the way?

Might be different in store, but checking 3 big UK Muso retailers, all 3 showed the same £649 price on their websites.

The pound has probably depreciated to 20% or so, which would give them that flexibility. With all the uniti launches delayed, I would not expect the muso to be changed in the near term.

Actually if we are talking of depreciation since just before the Brexit vote which was a peak, then against the Euro the pound is down about 12.5% and against the dollar about 14.5%.... as the dollar has risen against relative currencies.

David_Olstein posted:

Does anyone think dealers are trying to clear inventory in anticipation of a new and improved Mu-so?

What might you suggest for a new and improved Mu-so?

Do you think US dealers actually have much Mu-so inventory on hand to clear or are they ordering directly per sale? 

I'd say it's down to currency values.

A UK dealer is advertising Muso QB at £100 off.

My local dealer is offering £75 off the Muso or a package deal with the Qb for £150 off. So I guess ignore my exchange rate thoughts. As they are made for Naim in the Far East I guess they order in large batches, not hand made to order in Salisbury, perhaps the market is slow in the summer vacation period?

joerand posted:

David_Olstein posted:

Does anyone think dealers are trying to clear inventory in anticipation of a new and improved Mu-so?

What might you suggest for a new and improved Mu-so?

Well using the "new" streaming platform would make sense for Naim long term ... but I can't see them announcing anything new until the Nova / Star / Atom are all available.

I suspect it's an initiative to encourage sales... I was talking to a dealer in the UK a week ago, and he said in recent months Naim sales had gone a bit 'soft' to where they have been in recent years.. however he was referring more to the larger more expensive Naim items.. and predominately the UK market... 

Maybe the thought is to introduce more new people to Naim, enticing them with a good Mu-so/QB deal, so they then upgrade and buy the serious equipment....

Could be a tweaked version to include support for Airplay 2

wouldn't you think the soft sales are due to the hiatus with the release of the Atom - Star - Nova products? and whilst most buyers are probably oblivious to the new products, the dealers have probably been looking after them, with a wait there's something new and amazing on the way...  

Possibly.. and that coupled with the recent price rises it might just be getting a tad uncompetitive/unattractive for some of the UK market... Naim needs a lot more than just it's ardent fans that reside on this forum..

Given the general chaotic state of the country at the moment i would have thought spending would be down slightly on luxury goods. I suspect there is a seasonal element to this too though.

Still if there are good deals to be had... 

Indeed luxury spending in general has been down for a little while now, but Naim had seemed to be resilient to this.. but yes current declining incomes in real terms for the vast majority, and uncertainty can't help... at least those exports should be boosted with 12 % to 15 % sterling depreciation (yes I know raw imports are higher.. but the huge [for Naim] value add from build, design and construction at Salisbury will benefit)

Good point Simon regarding export conditions. 

Off the top of my head, there are certain features of the Uniti line that would likely be incorporated into a Mu-so 2, such as Aptx HD, Chromecast and an HDMI input.  I'd also like to see a coaxial digital input, MQA decoding capability added, and perhaps Bluetooth 5.0.

David_Olstein posted:

Off the top of my head, there are certain features of the Uniti line that would likely be incorporated into a Mu-so 2, such as Aptx HD, Chromecast and an HDMI input.  I'd also like to see a coaxial digital input, MQA decoding capability added, and perhaps Bluetooth 5.0.

And Roon, the best thing since the proverbial bread cut into smaller pieces.

.sjb  

Sloop John B posted:

David_Olstein posted:

Off the top of my head, there are certain features of the Uniti line that would likely be incorporated into a Mu-so 2, such as Aptx HD, Chromecast and an HDMI input.  I'd also like to see a coaxial digital input, MQA decoding capability added, and perhaps Bluetooth 5.0.

And Roon, the best thing since the proverbial bread cut into smaller pieces.

.sjb 

So really not that good at all... 

(See my previous comment about the merits of commercial bread!)

If they can incorporate a Tassimo machine into the next one then i'm in 

When you speak about naim you should consider focal also, naim isn't naim without focal, and focal suks in marketing. Don't want to know what ratings must my dealer achive to sell naim only with focal...

james n posted:

If they can incorporate a Tassimo machine into the next one then i'm in 

Surely not... surely it would need to be a Nespresso!

And a Naim manual espresso machine for in the main listening room!

I have some kit that I need to trade in and thinking about a Qb for my bedroom.  I have ND5xs in living room.

Sloop John B posted:

David_Olstein posted:

Off the top of my head, there are certain features of the Uniti line that would likely be incorporated into a Mu-so 2, such as Aptx HD, Chromecast and an HDMI input.  I'd also like to see a coaxial digital input, MQA decoding capability added, and perhaps Bluetooth 5.0.

And Roon, the best thing since the proverbial bread cut into smaller pieces.

Crumbs.

Adam Meredith posted:

Sloop John B posted:

David_Olstein posted:

Off the top of my head, there are certain features of the Uniti line that would likely be incorporated into a Mu-so 2, such as Aptx HD, Chromecast and an HDMI input.  I'd also like to see a coaxial digital input, MQA decoding capability added, and perhaps Bluetooth 5.0.

And Roon, the best thing since the proverbial bread cut into smaller pieces.

Crumbs.

Let's hope they are not toast...

Adam Meredith posted:

Sloop John B posted:

And Roon, the best thing since the proverbial bread cut into smaller pieces.

Crumbs.

Sorry however I beg to disagree with you.  There has been an ongoing debate in the Linn DS forum over the past year advocating for Linn to make an exception to their open source policy and incorporate ROON  capability within the DS ecosystem (obviously people will need to take out a ROON subscription).

Linn has finally come to an agreement with ROON and they are currently working on implementation.  As a side note I was the one who started one of the various threads and the title of my thread was "Naim announce ROON integration in their upcoming Uniti Star, Nova and Atom". This statement was made by Naim during the introductory period of the announcements (I do not know how it has eventually panned out).

In the interim I purchased, as have others on the Linn forum, a $300 box which allows ROON integration with our DS's while we wait for official Linn implementation.

I have owned a Klimax DS since the introduction of the /1 model and have used just about every software control point which has been made available.

I can state unequivocally that ROON is without any doubt in a completely different league and stratosphere compared to every other software solution which is out there.  There is simply no comparison - they are playing on a completely different field.

I definitely am curious to know which solution you consider to be superior to what ROON is presently offering.