There were two new NS01 available on eB.. on late Sunday evening. I was fast and got the other one at £600 including postage. Now shipped, should be on my door within one week.

I have two sets, one with Unitiserve (+ Unitiqute & DAC-V1), on different apartments and have been looking for another server so this offer came just in right time. I will use NS01 with Unitilite and old Genelec 1029A speakers and 1091A sub.

steven2907 posted:

Agreed Chrissu but I'd think most of the NS01s available will be USED and well below a grand so I think a real bargain for what it does.  And does well

Indeed, but my reply was to Snubbing, who already owns one and was considering upgrading it. 

Worth investigating the cost of servicing and hard drive replacement when deciding if a used NS01 is a good deal for what it does. 

Snubbing posted:

I am using the NS01 together with a N272, and I guess the DAC chip in N272 (with XPS and 300) is doing the work. How can I improve this set up? - with a HDX? 

perhaps with the uniticore....the uniticore is a server/nas/ without dac, you can use your 272 in spdif or upnp mode.  Normally the core should be better....but have not tested.

as Chrissu said,  the ns01 is a very old device and who knows how long it will last without breaking. 600 GBP bought used but perhaps 1000GBP to ship to Naim for repair.  Personally i would buy instead the uniticore ( around 1800GBP new).  or even a nas with outboard linear ps for less money.

My ns01 has been at naim twice for repare both costing  about 600 pounds or less. So  do not overprice repares.

Claus

Claus-Thoegersen posted:

My ns01 has been at naim twice for repare both costing  about 600 pounds or less. So  do not overprice repares.

Claus

Is that both together, Claus, or each time? And was that to have a HDD replaced or another issue?

Claus-Thoegersen posted:

My ns01 has been at naim twice for repare both costing  about 600 pounds or less. So  do not overprice repares.

Claus

when it was?   from where you have shipped it?   what naim repaired on it?    i once saw this price....

Claus-Thoegersen posted:

My ns01 has been at naim twice for repare both costing  about 600 pounds or less. So  do not overprice repares.

Claus

Just to put this into perspective, a brand new Synology NAS or similar would cost about half that much. 

Hi Barratana,

I used an NS01 as a kind of DDC for the nest part of a decade, feed the spdif into an nDAC and then a Bel Canto 3.5vbs. It gave very good results, but .... I bought this before the Naim streamers were available.

In fact I object to both these class of devices, as you end up buying redundant functionality. At one point I had three Naim DACs in my system, and only used one.

The ripping functionality of  NS01 became more flaky as time went on, more discs failing to be recognised.

After it died I had it repaired and then sold it. I replaced the bit of functionality I used with a Sonore microRendu, which is a significant step up, BUT took me months to work out how to get the best from it.

Assuming you want to stick with Naim I personally would not look at the NS01 or HDX. I think these were very much part of the last generation of digital Naim, and their thinking has moved on.

M

French Rooster posted:

Snubbing posted:

I am using the NS01 together with a N272, and I guess the DAC chip in N272 (with XPS and 300) is doing the work. How can I improve this set up? - with a HDX? 

perhaps with the uniticore....the uniticore is a server/nas/ without dac, you can use your 272 in spdif or upnp mode.  Normally the core should be better....but have not tested.

Thanks for the input regarding my SN01, I guess my main take of the replies will be to leave the SN01(which is just 1 year old) in the set up and change out the N272 instead to a NDX/NDX w/282/252 when my economy permits.

Snubbing posted:

French Rooster posted:

Snubbing posted:

I am using the NS01 together with a N272, and I guess the DAC chip in N272 (with XPS and 300) is doing the work. How can I improve this set up? - with a HDX? 

perhaps with the uniticore....the uniticore is a server/nas/ without dac, you can use your 272 in spdif or upnp mode.  Normally the core should be better....but have not tested.

Thanks for the input regarding my SN01, I guess my main take of the replies will be to leave the SN01(which is just 1 year old) in the set up and change out the N272 instead to a NDX/NDX w/282/252 when my economy permits.

even if the core will be better, the differences are not night and day.  Is the ns01 have a dc output ( 12v or 5v) at the back?   if yes, you can add a linear ps on it, which will upgrade significantly the sound.   But as you said,  going later to an ndx will be the most significant upgrade.

French Rooster posted:

Snubbing posted:

French Rooster posted:

Snubbing posted:

I am using the NS01 together with a N272, and I guess the DAC chip in N272 (with XPS and 300) is doing the work. How can I improve this set up? - with a HDX? 

perhaps with the uniticore....the uniticore is a server/nas/ without dac, you can use your 272 in spdif or upnp mode.  Normally the core should be better....but have not tested.

Thanks for the input regarding my SN01, I guess my main take of the replies will be to leave the SN01(which is just 1 year old) in the set up and change out the N272 instead to a NDX/NDX w/282/252 when my economy permits.

even if the core will be better, the differences are not night and day.  Is the ns01 have a dc output ( 12v or 5v) at the back?   if yes, you can add a linear ps on it, which will upgrade significantly the sound.   But as you said,  going later to an ndx will be the most significant upgrade.

Forget it, the ns01 looks like an hdx without the touch screen so it has a ps inside the box. If the system works, and it seems the ns01 is under warranty, I would wait and see, when the streamers get updated to the new platform. It would be frustrating to buy a streamer that will be supported but not updated with new functions you will have to read about when new firmware and app versions are released. Of course it make take a year probably more until we see the updated streamers, but with the money invested in this system it  is worth taking into consideration.

Claus   

Claus-Thoegersen posted:

French Rooster posted:

Snubbing posted:

French Rooster posted:

Snubbing posted:

I am using the NS01 together with a N272, and I guess the DAC chip in N272 (with XPS and 300) is doing the work. How can I improve this set up? - with a HDX? 

perhaps with the uniticore....the uniticore is a server/nas/ without dac, you can use your 272 in spdif or upnp mode.  Normally the core should be better....but have not tested.

Thanks for the input regarding my SN01, I guess my main take of the replies will be to leave the SN01(which is just 1 year old) in the set up and change out the N272 instead to a NDX/NDX w/282/252 when my economy permits.

even if the core will be better, the differences are not night and day.  Is the ns01 have a dc output ( 12v or 5v) at the back?   if yes, you can add a linear ps on it, which will upgrade significantly the sound.   But as you said,  going later to an ndx will be the most significant upgrade.

Forget it, the ns01 looks like an hdx without the touch screen so it has a ps inside the box. If the system works, and it seems the ns01 is under warranty, I would wait and see, when the streamers get updated to the new platform. It would be frustrating to buy a streamer that will be supported but not updated with new functions you will have to read about when new firmware and app versions are released. Of course it make take a year probably more until we see the updated streamers, but with the money invested in this system it  is worth taking into consideration.

Claus   

NS0x has got same software updates as HDX, HDX-SSD, UnitiServe and UnitiServe-SSD. I believe that they will still support it many years, HDX is not even yet discontinued.

airscrew posted:

Claus-Thoegersen posted:

French Rooster posted:

Snubbing posted:

French Rooster posted:

Snubbing posted:

I am using the NS01 together with a N272, and I guess the DAC chip in N272 (with XPS and 300) is doing the work. How can I improve this set up? - with a HDX? 

NS0x has got same software updates as HDX, HDX-SSD, UnitiServe and UnitiServe-SSD. I believe that they will still support it many years, HDX is not even yet discontinued.

the unitserve is no longer produced, i have one but don't know if it is really supported.  If it still works correctly, no reason to change finally.  The streaming dac has a more important role i think, so better invest after in a better dac or streaming dac as ndx. No urgency too....